Tuesday, January 5th 2021

AMD's Radeon RX 6700 Series Reportedly Launches in March

AMD may be finding itself riding a new wave of success caused by its accomplishments with the Zen architecture, which in turn bolstered its available R&D for its graphics division and thus turned the entire AMD business on its head. However, success comes at a cost, particularly when you don't own your own fabs and have to vie for capacity with TSMC against its cadre of other clients. I imagine that currently, AMD's HQ has a direct system of levers and pulleys that manage its chip allocation with TSMC: pull this lever and increase number of 7 nm SOC for the next-generation consoles; another controls Ryzen 5000 series; and so on and so on. As we know, production capacity on TSMC's 7 nm is through the roof, and AMD is finding it hard to ship enough of its Zen 3 CPUs and RDNA2 graphics cards. The reported delay for the AMD RX 6700 series may well be a result of AMD overextending its product portfolio on the 7 nm process with foundry partner TSMC.

A report coming from Cowcotland now points towards a 1Q2021 release for AMD's high-performance RX 6700 series, which was initially poised to see the light of day in the current month of January. The RX 6700 series will ship with AMD's Navi 22 chip, which is estimated to be half of the full Navi 21 chip (which puts it at a top configuration of 2560 Stream Processors over 40 CUs). These cards are expected to ship with 12 GB of GDDR6 memory over a 192-bit memory bus. However, it seems that AMD may have delayed the launch for these graphics cards. One can imagine that this move from AMD happens so as to not further dilute the TSMC wafers coming out of the factory, limited as they are, between yet another chip. One which will undoubtedly have lower margins than the company's Zen 3 CPUs, EPYC CPUs, RX 6800 and RX 6900, and that doesn't have the same level of impact on its business relations as console-bound SoCs. Besides, it likely serves AMD best to put out enough of its currently-launched products' to sate demand (RX 6000 series, Ryzen 5000, cof cof) than to launch yet another product with likely too limited availability in relation to the existing demand.
Sources: Cowcotland, via Videocardz
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43 Comments on AMD's Radeon RX 6700 Series Reportedly Launches in March

#1
dyonoctis
The fact that the other Fabs are not competitive is really bad for us customers... TSMC is carrying the whole tech world
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#2
RedelZaVedno
Does it really matter? It's gonna likely cost double the MSRP if you're gonna be able to get it at all as majority of Ampere GPUs are going directly to mining farms until mining craze ends and AMD has no capacity to meet gamer's GPU demand alone. It's all FU in DIY PC market segment atm.
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#3
windwhirl
bluetriangleclock
They're going to keep milking Navi and Polaris
Polaris just refuses to die lol

Then again, is just under 5 years old. Still can make it for some low-end applications, I guess.

And to be fair, my RX 580 still can handle itself relatively well for my 1080p 60 Hz gaming, considering how old it is.
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#4
Chrispy_
dyonoctis
The fact that the other Fabs are not competitive is really bad for us customers... TSMC is carrying the whole tech world
TSMC really is a bottleneck at the moment.

It's why Nvidia went with Samsung and I'm hoping Intel's 14nm+++ doesn't die any time soon.

Is polaris still made at GloFo? That's probably why AMD haven't dropped it yet in favour of the TSMC-made 5500XT
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#5
jeremyshaw
Chrispy_
TSMC really is a bottleneck at the moment.

It's why Nvidia went with Samsung and I'm hoping Intel's 14nm+++ doesn't die any time soon.

Is polaris still made at GloFo? That's probably why AMD haven't dropped it yet in favour of the TSMC-made 5500XT
Polaris is mostly made at GloFo and at one point had dual sourced from Samsung (at the tail end of the first mining craze). All 14nm.
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#6
nguyen
AMD is basically saying just buy next gen console people, save you time and money :D.
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#7
vvtunes

Due to some production issues, the first few samples will be built on LEGO.
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#8
Aldain
bluetriangleclock
It'll be another paper launch. They're going to keep milking Navi and Polaris. Lmao
BOTH Polaris and Navi ARE SOLD OUT.. So instead of talking nonsense use GOOGLE.
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#9
Chomiq
nguyen
AMD is basically saying just buy next gen console people, save you time and money :D.
At least with next gen consoles you're not getting ripped off by retailers.
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#10
Steevo
Aldain
BOTH Polaris and Navi ARE SOLD OUT.. So instead of talking nonsense use GOOGLE.
I would wager that account is trolling, and poorly at that.
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#11
spnidel
with a whopping stock of a grand total 30 cards worldwide
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#12
TechLurker
bluetriangleclock
It'll be another paper launch. They're going to keep milking Navi and Polaris. Lmao
I'm pretty sure AMD already reached end of production and EOL on Polaris, Vega, and Navi, for the regular consumer market, or had at least announced it back in Nov/Dec. Sure, they might still have a wafer supply agreement with GloFo, but they seem to be able to subsist on it solely for I/O dies now, instead of I/O dies + GPU dies. As well, I don't recall AMD ending the 1600X AF and select 14/12nm Ryzens yet, and those are mostly fabbed on GloFo's 12nm.

AMD has gone all-in on TSMC for GPUs now. Unless GloFo can cough up the money to actually build or upgrade a fab to their own 7nm and compete again, AMD is kind of stuck with TSMC's limits. TSMC itself is overdue for a new large-scale fab, since they've been having production limits for over a year now, with demand still rising.
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#13
HD64G
They delayed it in hope of having gathered enough to exist globally on the (e-)shelves at least for a few hours the day of launh.
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#14
Quicks
TechLurker
I'm pretty sure AMD already reached end of production and EOL on Polaris, Vega, and Navi, for the regular consumer market, or had at least announced it back in Nov/Dec. Sure, they might still have a wafer supply agreement with GloFo, but they seem to be able to subsist on it solely for I/O dies now, instead of I/O dies + GPU dies. As well, I don't recall AMD ending the 1600X AF and select 14/12nm Ryzens yet, and those are mostly fabbed on GloFo's 12nm.

AMD has gone all-in on TSMC for GPUs now. Unless GloFo can cough up the money to actually build or upgrade a fab to their own 7nm and compete again, AMD is kind of stuck with TSMC's limits. TSMC itself is overdue for a new large-scale fab, since they've been having production limits for over a year now, with demand still rising.
Still available where I live, and going in and out of stock regularly for the RX570 & RX580. The place where I do my shopping is actually expecting another shipment on the 8 Jan 2021.

www.wootware.co.za/xfx-radeon-rx-580-gts-xxx-edition-rx-580p8dfd6-8gb-gddr5-256-bit-pci-e-3-0-desktop-graphics-card.html
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#15
Turmania
Max 150watt , no paper launch gpu and I will buy one. Basically 5700 successor.
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#16
sepheronx
I have no hope for this year and getting a decent GPU.

It's either sit on a backorder for a 3080 at $939 CAD or sitting on backorder for a 6800 (non XT) at $888 CAD. The lower end GPU's, which are all backordered, are not much cheaper and non available.
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#17
mechtech
192-bit bus. I hope they have an 8GB version to help reduce price. I’m not to fond of the covid pricing or paying for ram that I will never use.
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#18
milewski1015
vvtunes

Due to some production issues, the first few samples will be built on LEGO.
Where do I get this?
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#19
ODOGG26
Chomiq
At least with next gen consoles you're not getting ripped off by retailers.
Nah they ripping people off too. Just not as much. Most of them are making you buy bundles to get the console. I had to get a bundle in order to get the Series S for my son for Christmas. It wasn't a totally useless bundle since it came with an extra controller and some game ultimate game pass or whatever. But yea they ripping off too but if you try hard enough now you can manage to get the console alone.
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#20
GoldenX
Where's the big yearly driver release, AMD.
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#21
DeathtoGnomes
They should just not bother with a 6700 put the effort into more important projects.
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#22
windwhirl
GoldenX
Where's the big yearly driver release, AMD.
Last I heard, when AMD made a poll last year to see what users wanted in Radeon drivers, people clamored for driver stability and bug fixes. So, they're probably focusing more on that. And let's be honest, they need to step up their work.
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#23
TheinsanegamerN
mechtech
192-bit bus. I hope they have an 8GB version to help reduce price. I’m not to fond of the covid pricing or paying for ram that I will never use.
And how, exactly, do you plan on doing 8GB on a 192 bit bus? 6GB? no problem. 12GB? No problem. 9GB? bit of a lark, but sure. 8GB? Yeah no. I hope they dont gimp their card with a non standard bus just because people are repeating the opposite of the "10GB" nvidia argument.

Besides, if you want 6700 performance and only 8GB of RAM for a low price, the 5700xt will likely plummet in price once the 6700 and 3060 are available in decent numbers, and the vega 64 is still available for ~$250.
DeathtoGnomes
They should just not bother with a 6700 put the effort into more important projects.
Yes lets just ignore a large market for more important projects, like........more PS5s?

The lower you go down the GPU totem pole, the larger your market. AMD already tried the "ignore the $300-400 market" thing with polaris, and it resulted in nvidia printing a mint with the 1070 alone.
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#25
goodeedidid
Not worth it for the price IMO.. better wait for 3080 SUPER or 3080-ti, more superior cards anyway.
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