my computer is long in the tooth but still runs games quite well at 1080 and most games at 1440 with good frame rates.
i will not be able to rum windows 11 even with the TPM module as my processor is too old.
i am planning to build another computer when the chip shortage is over and prices come down but that may some time from now, lol
the $10 TPM module for my is now $100 on ebay and i refuse to pay that price as i will more likey than not to ever use.
and by the way i could care less if microsoft sends my on line activity to the government, as the most damning thing will be the porn sites i check out and the sites like tech power up.

Samdbugmanmy computer is long in the tooth but still runs games quite well at 1080 and most games at 1440 with good frame rates.
i will not be able to rum windows 11 even with the TPM module as my processor is too old.
i am planning to build another computer when the chip shortage is over and prices come down but that may some time from now, lol
the $10 TPM module for my is now $100 on ebay and i refuse to pay that price as i will more likey than not to ever use.
and by the way i could care less if microsoft sends my on line activity to the government, as the most damning thing will be the porn sites i check out and the sites like tech power up.

I mean... you can bypass the TPM thing. You can see how like 5 posts ago.

Musselsyou can bypass the TPM thing.

UEFI and SecureBoot as well. All three of those limitations are completely artificial.

Adam Krazispeedyou got that right... im sick of the scalpers and MS can go and die for all i care.. GAMING IS GOING TO HELL ON PC.. im about done thanks to scalpers ( mainly on CPUs and Graphics Cards. Ram and SSDs (nvme especially) the good ones

but so does first gen 1000 series ryzen and Threadripper, A,B,&X 300 + X399 Threadripper 1st gen ryzen has TPM2.0 because iv always turned it on in the bios, so wtf Zen1 Unsupported>> WHY MS?

You are not alone.

Incidentally since you have a Ryzen 1st Gen. Threadripper or maybe a Ryzen (1800x/1700x/1xxx)? If you have a Ryzen on your system, in windows 10, after enabling the fTPM in the BIOS motherboard, so not external module, which version of TPM is shown to you in Windows 10 security? 2.0? I would be interested to have a confirmation that TPM 2.0 is indicated. Thank you

According their blog statement "we will test to identify...AMD Zen 1 that may meet our principles". What do they want to test again? They already identified that Zen1 "meet their principles" because in their Windows 11 CPU compatibility list every Ryzen 2000 and every Ryzen APU 3000 are Zen 1!! they don't know the difference, or pretend they don't know it, between Zen1/Zen2 with Gen1/Gen2.

Remove all these limits that are so useless in terms of safety! No computer will ever be safe if the person using it does not seek him to use it "safely". Worse, in millions of excluded PCs will be used, to allow installation, .iso (retrieved "wherever they are") that will be patched to remove these limits . Certainly a nice improvement to general safety.

In any case, more security threats will surely come in the following years. If tomorrow a new threat will be discovered which could affect a CPU, chipset, or other connected devices (among other things the TPM 2.0 has already been bypassed by hackers) what they do? with subsequent windows yearly update, they will remove these devices from the compatibility list? It is ridiculous and also demonstrates the absurdity of the thing. Everything can be added to improve security, well but optional not mandatory...

@Hiner101 all of the Ryzen 1xxx series and Threadripper 1xxx have TPM2.0 built in to them as for zen 2 and or 3 Ryzen 2xxx/3xxx cpu's well I do have TPM enabled on my Ryzen 7 3700X and it says TPM2.0 in the MS Security ap

lexluthermiesterUEFI and SecureBoot as well. All three of those limitations are completely artificial.

Hi,
Only if one manipulates the iso otherwise it's a hard stop.

ThrashZoneHi,
Only if one manipulates the iso otherwise it's a hard stop.

Yeah, but its stupidly easy to remove. You can slap a single file from the W11 ISO onto a W10 USB, and bam: unlocked W11 installer, with all legit MS files

MusselsYeah, but its stupidly easy to remove. You can slap a single file from the W11 ISO onto a W10 USB, and bam: unlocked W11 installer, with all legit MS files

And even if ms finds a way to put a stop to that, the community of modders WILL find a way around these dumbass limitations. Work is already underway.

bois instead of complaining just do some research!
or just ask a friendly German:

:nutkick:

we have bypassed it

plastiscɧbois instead of complaining just do some research!
or just ask a friendly German:

:nutkick:

we have bypassed it

Yes, that has already been known for a week.

Besides, people would rather not have to bother bypassing it

windwhirlYes, that has already been known for a week.

Besides, people would rather not have to bother bypassing it

true!
but the german one is just 1 registry entry additional to the iso data. the rest is untouched. for me it would mean; not the real big deal if u have older hardware.
nothing cheesy to put in and need to delete. just switch a "1" to a "0". then cleaninstall

many ways leading to rome.

plastiscɧbois instead of complaining just do some research!
or just ask a friendly German:

:nutkick:

we have bypassed it

My German is a bit rusty. Care to translate or show the actual file and entry to that file modified?

lexluthermiesterMy German is a bit rusty. Care to translate or show the actual file and entry to that file modified?

of course not! i was unsure if i am allowed to post those "mechanics" here in the forum
but i first ask for permission. if not i'll send u a link to my fellas site and u need to figure out on your own. but i assure this is not that hard then.

plastiscɧof course not! i was unsure if i am allowed to post those "mechanics" here in the forum
but i first ask for permission. if not i'll send u a link to my fellas site and u need to figure out on your own. but i assure this is not that hard then.

You are and please do. Windows Tweaks are not illegal, nor against forum policy. They are, in fact, encouraged as long as doing so does not promote piracy. Windows installer tweaks are welcome.

lexluthermiesterYou are and please do. Windows Tweaks are not illegal, nor against forum policy. They are, in fact, encouraged as long as doing so does not promote piracy. Windows installer tweaks are welcome.

alright then!
i will work on it. gimmie some time

Oh no Classic shell don't override the original one

Isaac`Oh no Classic shell don't override the original one

Give them time. The OpenShell project will very likely have something ready for final release. Remember, 11 is still in alpha.

Isaac`Oh no Classic shell don't override the original one

Activate the old start menu in the registry
Enter Windows key + R regedit and start it
Go to the path:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced

In the right part of the window a right click -> New -> Create new DWORD value (32-bit) with the name

Start_ShowClassicMode

A double click on Start_ShowClassicMode

Value = 0 The new start menu is shown
Value = 1 The old Windows 10 Start menu is displayed.
Now either press Ctrl + Shift + ESC key and restart explorer.exe once. The window will be dark for a short time and the old start menu is back. Or you can simply restart the program.

If you want to save it as a reg key: Just copy it into a text file and save it. Then rename from New Textfile.txt to Startmenu.reg


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]

"Start_ShowClassicMode"=dword:00000001

:peace:

lexluthermiesterYou are and please do. Windows Tweaks are not illegal, nor against forum policy. They are, in fact, encouraged as long as doing so does not promote piracy. Windows installer tweaks are welcome.

done!

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/installing-windows-11-without-tpm-2-0-and-secure-boot-registry-bypass.284107/

:eek:

show that scalpers now your FINGER...

The only thing not allowed here is direct piracy discussion, such as activation methods, links to cracks and so on

Tweaks hacks and modding the OS? hit us allllll day.

I can understand why MS are saying 8th gen Intel CPU's and above as it comes down to security ie: Intel built spectre and Meltdown and Zombieload mitigations into the hardware whereas previous gens relied on software mitigations which slowed them down but as for AMD's Ryzen 1xxx 2xxx and 3xxx CPU's I'm not so sure did AMD build in mitigations to these CPU's I pretty sure Ryzen 1xxx CPU don't have it built in not so sure about 2xxx and 3xxx but who really cares most of us will just hack it to run on the hardware we have and not give a shit about what or why MS have said no to it

Athloniteand above as it comes down to security ie: Intel built spectre and Meltdown and Zombieload mitigations into the hardware whereas previous gens relied on software mitigations which slowed them down

Total rubbish. Spectre/Meltdown/Zombieland/etc/etc all REQUIRE physical access to the system at some point in the exploitation stage of an attack and then are so difficult to pull off that it's a wasted effort on the general populace. Additionally, for Intel CPU's turning off hyperthreading solves the problem is one simple step without affecting IPC. While it's true that you loose some performance from disabling hyperthreading, most people wouldn't notice and doing so has no effect on IO performance that the software mitigations do.

Athlonitebut who really cares most of us will just hack it to run on the hardware we have and not give a shit about what or why MS have said no to it

This, yes!

MusselsJust did. Seems like W10, but easier on the eyes.
Only thing i dislike is that i gotta right click the windows button for task manager, instead of the task bar

I’ve installed it through in my XPS15 laptop. The first thing I did was reverting the start to the left, and the second was reverting to the good ol’ 10 start menu via regedit.
And yes, it’s an awful thing that I can’t access the task manager from anywhere in the task bar. I usually do it in the middle of it.
Apart from that (and half of it that isn’t translated to Italian, and that the upper part of any window is white even if I change the colour and enable it I like it, and it runs great. The settings are a bit more logical to navigate, more iPadOS-like (good thing), but some settings are in different places (bad thing).
The 7300HQ in the lappy isn’t technically supported, but it isn’t a problem for now.

AthloniteI can understand why MS are saying 8th gen Intel CPU's and above as it comes down to security ie: Intel built spectre and Meltdown and Zombieload mitigations into the hardware whereas previous gens relied on software mitigations which slowed them down but as for AMD's Ryzen 1xxx 2xxx and 3xxx CPU's I'm not so sure did AMD build in mitigations to these CPU's I pretty sure Ryzen 1xxx CPU don't have it built in not so sure about 2xxx and 3xxx but who really cares most of us will just hack it to run on the hardware we have and not give a shit about what or why MS have said no to it

According to Microsoft, it comes down to a driver model, not mitigations. I'll let someone else research that, it's way out of my knowledge.

fb020997I’ve installed it through in my XPS15 laptop. The first thing I did was reverting the start to the left, and the second was reverting to the good ol’ 10 start menu via regedit.
And yes, it’s an awful thing that I can’t access the task manager from anywhere in the task bar. I usually do it in the middle of it.
Apart from that (and half of it that isn’t translated to Italian, and that the upper part of any window is white even if I change the colour and enable it I like it, and it runs great. The settings are a bit more logical to navigate, more iPadOS-like (good thing), but some settings are in different places (bad thing).
The 7300HQ in the lappy isn’t technically supported, but it isn’t a problem for now.

task manager annoys me for sure, i just moved to the keyboard shortcut of ctrl-shift-esc

Musselstask manager annoys me for sure, i just moved to the keyboard shortcut of ctrl-shift-esc

right click create --- new -- shortcut --- insert_ taskmgr.exe --- follow the instuctions.
this shortcut can be placed nearly everywhere. even on multiple places. symbols can be changed to invisble pics

maybe its more comfortable for u-