Friday, July 30th 2021

Alleged AMD AM5 Socket for Zen 4 Raphael Processors Leaks

AMD is slowly preparing to launch its next-generation processors based on the new AM5 socket. The new lineup of processors will be based on the upgraded Zen 4 architecture that is said to bring multiple microarchitecture improvements and enhancements, equaling to a possible high-performance increase. Today, according to ExecutableFix, the person who provided us with renders of AMD's upcoming AM5 socket designed for next-generation Raphael processors. As we previously reported, AM5 is doing away from PGA and switching to LGA type instead, where pins are delivered on the socket, not the CPU like we used to see with AMD processors.

The LGA-1718 socket, pictured in the renders below, looks like a simple retention mechanism, where there is one metal arm to hold the lid down under pressure. If it turns out to be true, this implementation will be a very positive upgrade over the past PGA socket found on AM4 and before. We can look forward to seeing what AMD will deliver once the launch of Raphael processors gets closer.
Sources: ExecutableFix (Twitter), via VideoCardz
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35 Comments on Alleged AMD AM5 Socket for Zen 4 Raphael Processors Leaks

#1
tabascosauz
Cleaning bits of thermal paste off this thing is going to SUCK

This looks quite similar to LGA775
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#2
MIRTAZAPINE
tabascosauzCleaning bits of thermal paste off this thing is going to SUCK

This looks quite similar to LGA775
But I like LGA775. *nostalgia noises*
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#3
kayjay010101
The LGA-1718 socket, pictured in the renders below,
Uh, where?
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#4
Patriot
kayjay010101Uh, where?


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#5
kayjay010101
Patriot

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That was indeed it! Cheers.
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#6
Crackong
The exposed caps look really dangerous to handle.
Hope they will put them back within the IHS
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#7
Tigger
I'm the only one
It's about time they switched. Better to have the pins on the cheaper part, though I guess there are other advantages to LGA or Intel would not have stuck with it so long. There is also no chance of backwards compatibility this time.
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#8
ixi
O boy, i want faster to get to that day when AM5 is released. To feel that power from red team ;}. While blue team is gluing things together.
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#9
Chomiq
ixiO boy, i want faster to get to that day when AM5 is released ;}. To feel that power from red team ;}. While blue team is gluing things together.
Don't cream your pants yet.
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#10
ixi
ChomiqDon't cream your pants yet.
Hard to hold, hard to resist :D :D :D.
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#11
Tigger
I'm the only one
ixiO boy, i want faster to get to that day when AM5 is released. To feel that power from red team ;}. While blue team is gluing things together.
Glueing things together. lol. If they can get the big/small cores on the same die, how is that glueing? like AMD did?
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#12
TheinsanegamerN
Finally. It's about damn time we get some kind of CPU retention system. Bending pins on heatsink removals is something that should have stayed in the 90s.
Gruffalo.SoldierGlueing things together. lol. If they can get the big/small cores on the same die, how is that glueing? like AMD did?
r/WOOOOSH
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#13
Tigger
I'm the only one
TheinsanegamerNFinally. It's about damn time we get some kind of CPU retention system. Bending pins on heatsink removals is something that should have stayed in the 90s.

r/WOOOOSH
Sarcasm it was not, neither was mine.
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#14
Xex360
No more stuck CPUs to the cooler.
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#15
bonehead123
tabascosauzCleaning bits of thermal paste off this thing is going to SUCK
Why do you say this ?, it doesn't seem all that different from intel's sockets, with the exception of the exposed caps though...

Just curious :)
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#16
GreiverBlade
ohhhhh like my LGA-1207 2005 Opteron 2214/18 and 2006 Opteron 8356 o_O Socket F .... still need to find a mobo ... ahahah ... (or TRX4/sWRX8 in a more modern fashion)
(i love these CPU ... alongside my socket 940, Opty 240/250/270/275 in my collection .... and i have 2 mobo for them this time)

oh well it was server/HEDT only for AMD before hehehe

they did maintain PGA with brilliance for long enough nonetheless, not minding the change, if they keep that behaviour (glad that my AM4 system can still have a worthy upgrade if needed, but a complete change if the 3600 hold long enough, will not be a problem either.)

sidenote, hilarious :
also for glueing things together ... Intel bashed AMD (childishly so ...) for using multiple "glued" die ... and now for their next gen they will do it ... but it's the "bee's knees" ... more "knee-jerk move" rather :laugh:



edit... never bent a pin on a AMD cpu, ever since S939 till now... my last bent pin CPU was a ... 486DX :laugh: (twisting and sliding works fine ... )
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#17
tabascosauz
bonehead123Why do you say this ?, it doesn't seem all that different from intel's sockets, with the exception of the exposed caps though...

Just curious :)
Bits of excess paste always end up pushed out to the sides by the cooler's mounting pressure. On LGA115x/1200 this just falls on the lower "ledge" of the IHS, and on AM4 this falls onto the ledge between the IHS and substrate, both easily removed with a IPA-soaked Q-tip.

There's no way you can clean the edges on this rumored AM5 design. Paste is just going to accumulate next to the caps. For our sakes I hope AMD extends the IHS to cover up the caps. Or, I hope the leakers eat their words entirely.

I actually very much like the LGA775-like retention mechanism (or rather more like Socket F, either way it's good). imo the lever being detached from the retention plate is better than LGA115x.
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#18
HisDivineOrder
Anybody know if this bodes well or poorly for people who don't want to re-buy their coolers?
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#19
DeathtoGnomes
tabascosauzBits of excess paste always end up pushed out to the sides by the cooler's mounting pressure. On LGA115x/1200 this just falls on the lower "ledge" of the IHS, and on AM4 this falls onto the ledge between the IHS and substrate, both easily removed with a IPA-soaked Q-tip.

There's no way you can clean the edges on this rumored AM5 design. Paste is just going to accumulate next to the caps. For our sakes I hope AMD extends the IHS to cover up the caps. Or, I hope the leakers eat their words entirely.

I actually very much like the LGA775-like retention mechanism (or rather more like Socket F, either way it's good). imo the lever being detached from the retention plate is better than LGA115x.
I'm expecting to see masking tape reappear and used for installation again
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#20
mechtech
ixiO boy, i want faster to get to that day when AM5 is released. To feel that power from red team ;}. While blue team is gluing things together.
Don't wish your life away.

When you're 40 you'll be wishing you were 20.
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#21
Mysteoa
HisDivineOrderAnybody know if this bodes well or poorly for people who don't want to re-buy their coolers?
They will just make different mounting hardware that you can get. I got AM4 mounting hardware for my NH-u12S when I asked them.
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#22
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
tabascosauzCleaning bits of thermal paste off this thing is going to SUCK

This looks quite similar to LGA775
I highly doubt the ihs is like that
Xex360No more stuck CPUs to the cooler.
I only had that problem with a 478 p4, after i figured it out, i havent bent a pin since.
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#23
lexluthermiester
tabascosauzCleaning bits of thermal paste off this thing is going to SUCK
Those are just mock-up renders. They are in no way official AMD material. But yeah, if that ends up being accurate, it's gonna suck..
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#24
GreiverBlade
mechtechDon't wish your life away.

When you're 40 you'll be wishing you were 20.
hey! don't joke with that ... it's been 19yrs that i am 20 and this end of year will be the 20th year i am 20 ... not joking with that! not wishing to be 20 ... I am 20 :laugh: (well ... people rarely give me 39/40 but rather 27/31 ... ) i never fast forwarded tho ahah!
eidairaman1I only had that problem with a 478 p4, after i figured it out, i havent bent a pin since.
ah! forgot that one .... found a old 478 system in a dump wanted to took the CPU for my collection .... forgot to twist the cooler ... pulled the cpu straight up ... although no bent pin, i was pulling too straight i guess :laugh:
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#25
PanicLake
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If what should be a simple image is blocked by ad blocker, that sounds like a sketchy "image" to me.
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