theGryphonWhat I understand is, increasing the timings that high removes all system stability concerns. What we're looking at is the limits of the silicon in terms of clock speed. So, the aim here was not to maximize system performance, just MHz.

watzupkenUp to DDR5 6000, the latency can be between CL36 to 40. To push it to 8000+, that is a very steep latency penalty to pay. Not sure whether it is worth the while to push it to such an extend since the increase in latency will surely negate some of the performance gained from the increase speed.

lynx29Thank you for explaining. I am no longer interested in ram overclocking now lol

tabascosauzWith all those 8s and Chinese New Year just about to start within a week, I can tell they were aiming for this result :D one hell of a well-timed marketing effort for both companies, that's for sure.

Prima.VeraThis would have been some how interesting if the cooling was done on air, and timings around CL60, or even lower.

Vayra86This is really infinite RAM speed using those numbers. I think they tried opening a gate to another dimension here. Didn't work out. Portal wasn't stable enough.

lynx29so is ddr5 6000 cl 36 the equivalent to 3600 cl 14 of the old era? or is it a magnitude more expensive (assuming there was no shortage and both were MSRP)

EatingDirtIn games, low latency DDR5 4800(CL30) would probably be as fast as DDR4 3600 CL14. It depends on how latency dependent verses bandwidth dependent the game is. In most cases we'll all be limited by our GPU or CPU well before we hit a RAM bottleneck in most games. www.techpowerup.com/review/ddr5-memory-performance-scaling/3.html

Until a sufficient supply of DDR5 exists we won't really know at what price DDR5 is going to end up being.

bugEveryone owning a Z690 Apex, rejoice! :rolleyes:
(Interestingly enough, they didn't go for the Extreme.)

Sabishii Hito2 slot/1DPC boards will almost always clock RAM higher than 4 slot/2DPC boards due to shorter trace length to the CPU.

diopterWake me up when they max out the stable speed of DDR5 and sell it at the same price I can get DDR4 3600 CL16 for. I will be holding back on AM5 until DDR5 matures.

bugGood point, but do other traces have an influence if simply using the slot with the shortest traces?

bugIf memory serves me well, DDR2 never beat DDR, DDR3 didn't beat DDR2 and DDR4 didn't beat DDR3. New memory always "wins" because the old doesn't get developed anymore and it stagnates and the new memory gets faster and faster. But at comparable speeds, old memory was always faster.
The only thing that changed is right off the bat the new memory is already available (sort of, not really) at higher speeds. Afair, it always took a year or more before we ever saw faster kits before.

Prima.VeraYou mean DDR5 7200 CL32 ? Probably that would never happen.
They seem to hit a wall on DDR 5-6000 with CL36 lowest possible for some reason.