RazbojnikFor the money you spent...I can't say I'm impressed with those frames...and I can only imagine how awful the stuttering in 4k is lol

64KWhat are you basing this on?

Let's look at past performance increases to get some clarity about what we can probably expect from Ampere with the lower process node and new architecture.

RTX 2080 (non Super) showed an increase of 37% in average performance over the GTX 1080

GTX 1080 showed an increase of 67% in average performance over the GTX 980

Spoiler: Benches Done Here on RTX 2080, GTX 1080, GTX 980

Why in the world are you expecting a lousy 15% increase in performance from Ampere over Turing?

kapone32Depending on pricing I may make the jump to Nvidia if this holds true. I cringe at the potential price point for these particular cards.

theoneandonlymrkWould also be nice to hear some rumours about the improvements to RTX hardware and tensor cores too, shader numbers are not going to inform us much about the performance in isolation.

@Berfs1 I Can't see any of that panning out, since when did Nvidia improve their best then undercut it? so I think the prices we have now plus 50 dollars minimum, at least at launch with supers or something coming out later ,once stocks of the 2xxx series run out, makes sense tbf.

Berfs1Cus 20 series was extremely overpriced from the beginning and everyone knew that.

Berfs1Cus 20 series was extremely overpriced from the beginning and everyone knew that.

medi01It's sounds like it's more than what it actually is.

64KI have no idea what you are saying. It is what it is. And it is a 37% average increase in performance for a RTX 2080 (non Super) over a GTX 1080 at 1440p in a 23 game suite benched on this site. Have a look at the benches if you want to:

www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-founders-edition/

RazbojnikYeah...pity there are no games worthy of such powers, I mean when these cards come an average 250$ card will be able to rock 1440p and ray tracing on ultra in all games...plus games are being delayed like hell lately. we're getting there where there will be no point in buying expensive gpu's for gaming, just like there's no point in buying expensive cpu's for gaming...a 250$ cpu maxes all. I'm not complaining...I guess? Right? Hmm, there is a gap here. Gpu's are getting insanely powerful...while we are getting games of lesser quality. Come to think of it, there's a lot of things to complain about in here.

medi01We are talking about 17% more expensive card, pulling roughly 1/3rd of perf ahead, give or take, one (or was it more?) year later than the original.

ppn1080->2080 1,45x in 4K, but look at transistor count. 13600M/7200M = 1.88x. So in the name of new improvements like async compute and variable shader rate we did not get the real 90% improvement that is provided by transistor count right away but 45% instead. 90% will come later as games start to use it. But next gen will provide linear scaling and that means RTX 3080 17000M transistors ~~ 25% faster than 2080S.

xkm1948I do wonder how much different the overall design would be from Turing uArc. Also I hope they don't cut down the Tensorflow units. It has been really nice to use consumer level GPU for dl/ml acceleration.

dicktracyBig. Navi. Is. Dead. Don't even bother releasing that expensive chip just to get defeated jebaited by midrange Ampere.

ppn1080->2080 1,45x in 4K, but look at transistor count. 13600M/7200M = 1.88x. So in the name of new improvements like async compute and variable shader rate, RTRT and tensor we did not get the real 90% improvement that is provided by transistor count right away but 45% instead. 90% will come later as games start to use it. But next gen will provide linear scaling and that means RTX 3080 17000M transistors ~~ 25% faster than 2080S. If we take into account the clock increase 18Gbps and 2.5Ghz Gpu for another 20% we get the 50% number at 1/2 power.

ppn1080->2080 1,45x in 4K, but look at transistor count. 13600M/7200M = 1.88x. So in the name of new improvements like async compute and variable shader rate, RTRT and tensor we did not get the real 90% improvement that is provided by transistor count right away but 45% instead. 90% will come later as games start to use it. But next gen will provide linear scaling and that means RTX 3080 17000M transistors ~~ 25% faster than 2080S. If we take into account the clock increase 18Gbps and 2.5Ghz Gpu for another 20% we get the 50% number at 1/2 power.

ZoneDymoBe sure to empty your wallets loyal customers.

ZmonIt's going to be a bit ridiculous if Nvidia is going to keep their current price hike for their 3xxx series. It was already ridiculous that the 2080ti had an MSRP of $1199, which was a massive 58% increase over the 1080ti's MSRP of $699. If we go back to Kepler and Maxwell, Maxwell even had a price decrease over Kepler of about $50. There isn't really any good justification for the current price gouging besides the "massive die" argument. I hope Nvidia fixes this, but I highly doubt it with a current lack of competition from AMD.

ZmonIt's going to be a bit ridiculous if Nvidia is going to keep their current price hike for their 3xxx series. It was already ridiculous that the 2080ti had an MSRP of $1199, which was a massive 58% increase over the 1080ti's MSRP of $699. If we go back to Kepler and Maxwell, Maxwell even had a price decrease over Kepler of about $50. There isn't really any good justification for the current price gouging besides the "massive die" argument. I hope Nvidia fixes this, but I highly doubt it with a current lack of competition from AMD.

eidairaman1Do your research, amd answered last year, they aren't finished either

eidairaman1amd answered last year

GungarHBM is by far the most powerful and efficient graphic memory out there right now. AMD is just incapable of producing any good gpu, for sometime now.