Otonel88When is expected for Nvidia to announce the new Ampere cards?
And AMD with Big Navi?
Maybe if they are close together it will create some kind of competition between them, wich is always good for the consumer. (Look at the 5600 release)

Super XPWhy not check the internet. There's a wealth of speculation and rumours for both Big Navi / RDNA2 and Ampere. lol

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AMD claims up to a 50 percent improvement in performance for the same power consumption.

EarthDogI wonder how AMD is going to accomplish this on the same node with just an arch tweak.

EarthDogNvidia on the other hand has all of the natural improvements of a die shrink, PLUS their arch changes.

EarthDogFrom a link (or two) of yours...


And with Nvidia Ampre saying the same thing (50% performance for the same power)...if we assume both are true... that leaves the landscape in a similar position, no?

I wonder how AMD is going to accomplish this on the same node with just an arch tweak. Nvidia on the other hand has all of the natural improvements of a die shrink, PLUS their arch changes.

Super XPBut you assume AMD is going to do nothing more than a arch tweak, where the majority of sources state RDNA2 is a new GPU architecture. But it's also something that AMD is keeping quiet, just like how they kept ZEN quiet.

EarthDogLol, I like your positive outlook, even if it is inherently misplaced here. :)

Your links show 50% for amd so is ampre (assuming both are true). So I ask again, regardless of 7nm+ and new arch, we're in the same place, if we follow the rumors, eh?

EarthDogLol, I like your positive outlook, even if it is inherently misplaced here. :)

Your links show 50% for amd so is ampre (assuming both are true). So I ask again, regardless of 7nm+ and new arch, we're in the same place, if we follow the rumors, eh?

Super XPAgreed. :clap::peace:

Razrback16Ya I remember years back before I tried my first SLI setup (2x 780 Ti) I was scared to death about the stuttering people kept talking about. I've run 780 Ti SLI, Titan X (maxwell) SLI, and now 1080 Ti SLI...I haven't had a lick of stuttering on any games I play. I mean zippo. I generally run vsync @ 60fps in 4k and my games have been butter smooth. If I ever feel like a game is running right around that 60fps limit for my cards and may fluctuate (which can cause input lag in those rare situations), then I switch out of true vsync and enable adaptive vsync at the driver level and that will take care of any issues.

My experiences with multi gpu have been great. It's obviously not for everyone given that the scaling is never 1:1, and in some cases not even close, but if you have tons of cash and / or are just a hardware enthusiast that wants maximum image quality and / or framerates, it's something I'd recommend people try.



Ya I'd like to think they'll get the prices back down into the realm of reason, but I am skeptical with NVidia. :) I may need to just plan on buying 2nd hand Turing once the prices get down into reasonable territory.

theoneandonlymrkWould also be nice to hear some rumours about the improvements to RTX hardware and tensor cores too, shader numbers are not going to inform us much about the performance in isolation.

@Berfs1 I Can't see any of that panning out, since when did Nvidia improve their best then undercut it? so I think the prices we have now plus 50 dollars minimum, at least at launch with supers or something coming out later ,once stocks of the 2xxx series run out, makes sense tbf.

VrOtkThat 320-bit bus looks weird: allowing your xx80 grade card to have such high memory bandwidth, you start to cripple your xx80Ti's performance at higher resolutions (unless it uses 512-bit bus or HBM2).
Though I'd be happy to be wrong, as better grade products for the same or cheaper price is always a welcome.

candle_86last card with a 320bit bus was an 8800GTS, its to odd a number to be the complete memory controller, I'd wager there is some disabled silicone and the controller is really 384bit for TI

Berfs1Not the last card to have 320 bit bus width; the GTX 470 had 320 bit, as well as the GTX 560 Ti (448 core) and GTX 570, but yes it is weird nonetheless. Not to mention the 3080 Ti may be 352 or 384 bit, I mean the 1080 Ti and 2080 Ti had 352 bit, the 780 Ti and 980 Ti had 384 bit, who knows at this point lol, but I have a hunch the Titan Ampere may have 48GB VRAM and 3080 Ti may be 20GB/24GB VRAM, since the 80 Ti cards have always have had half or near half the VRAM of the Titan cards, with the one exception being the Titan Z (which was a dual GPU card).

DivergeAs much as I want to buy the latest and greatest GPU each year... I think I am going to stop doing so until they make gaming great again!

All the game developers, but a maybe a few, suck! Tired of 1/4 baked games filled with bugs, or heavily monetized with money transactions...

efikkanMost of these were just partially disabled memory controllers. GPUs don't have a single memory controller, but multiple 64-bit controllers, but even these can be partially disabled to get 32-bit increments.

This rumor does however contain two specific and odd details;
1) Different SM count per GPC (Nvidia usually have these the same within an architecture)
2) A separate die for a chip with a 320-bit memory controller
These are two pieces of information that are either completely true or completely wrong, and those under NDA would immediately know if this entire rumor is true or just BS.


Why upgrade so often? Upgrade when you need to.

But you're right about game developers; high quality work is more the exception than the norm. It's not Nvidia that's "killing" gaming, it's poor software.

efikkanWhy upgrade so often? Upgrade when you need to.

DivergeFor no logical reason. I like like playing with new gadgets. It's a disease... LOL. But now that they cost over $1200 each year, I'm going to stop wasting my money... especially since I can't find any games that suck me in anymore.

candle_86I would the average gamer is on an rx580 or gtx1060 and this is the middle road they're going to Target.

Super XPIt's not the developers fault it's the gaming companies Board of Directors that conjure up techniques to squeeze as much money as possible into there pockets and greatly limiting development funding.

They want less money invested into proper game development while still trying to make huge profits.

Nowadays games are popped out too quickly with lots of issues and bugs. It's really too bad, and hopefully things change.

ppnWell 3070 is 2080S on steroids, this is 60% faster than 2070. 60% the chip size at same power higher clocks, and lower price.... than 2080S.

efikkanYes, agree. I should have emphasized that I meant the game development companies, not the poor individuals given the "impossible" task.

But as I've mentioned in other threads before, it's often not only about money spent, but rather "quick turnover". These companies' boards often rather want rapid product cycles rather than spending the time necessary to build a proper game engine first, then do full-scale content creation, and then finally proper testing before shipping.

Prima.VeraBtw, when was Intel supposedly to launch their new GPUs ??