Friday, September 4th 2020

MSI Releases AGESA V2 1.0.8.1 BIOS Updates for AMD 500-series Chipset Motherboards

MSI began rolling out UEFI firmware updates that pack AMD's latest AGESA Combo PI V2 1.0.8.1 microcode, for the company's Socket AM4 motherboards based on the AMD 500-series chipsets. The company released firmware updates for 9 of its B550 motherboards today. Some time mid-September, it plans to release updates for X570 chipset boards, and the rest of its B550 motherboards. By late-September, updates will be released for A520 chipset boards.

MSI says AGESA V2 1.0.8.1 improves memory compatibility and memory overclocking headroom, and supports UMA memory share control for Ryzen 4000G / PRO 4000G "Renoir" desktop processors. MSI added fixes specific to its products, such as Soft RAID issues on B550, and PCs refusing to resume from S3 state. Check the "support" section of your motherboard's product page on the MSI website for the new firmware updates.
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24 Comments on MSI Releases AGESA V2 1.0.8.1 BIOS Updates for AMD 500-series Chipset Motherboards

#1
VulkanBros
Nothing yet for the MEG X570 Unify........

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#2
DuxCro
Improved memory overclocking headroom? well, time to tinker with my RAM again. Won't be happy until it makes fart noise after restart.
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#3
TheLostSwede
VulkanBros
Nothing yet for the MEG X570 Unify........


Reading comprehension helps in these situations.
Some time mid-September, it plans to release updates for X570 chipset boards
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#4
mainlate
AMD´s version numbering scheme of AGESAs sucks.
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#5
londiste
So, 400-series chipsets are now forgotten?
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#6
Dave65
londiste
So, 400-series chipsets are now forgotten?
They will always support the latest chipset first, give it time.
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#7
lynx29
im not updating mine until it supports full 4000 series processors. nom nom

im still on my laptop until i get my hands on a 3080, or big navi
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#8
Jism
Ok,

www.gigabyte.com/nl/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

I'm going to flash the X570 Aorus Elite, esp because of the Memory compatibility. I cant get this kit to work at intended, XML profile and running at 3000Mhz with a bit tighter timings. This kit used to work on my previous board including the XML profile just fine on the Asus X470-F. Lets see how it goes!
Jism
Ok,

www.gigabyte.com/nl/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

I'm going to flash the X570 Aorus Elite, esp because of the Memory compatibility. I cant get this kit to work at intended, XML profile and running at 3000Mhz with a bit tighter timings. This kit used to work on my previous board including the XML profile just fine on the Asus X470-F. Lets see how it goes!
Ok, for me, this bios was utterly shit. There is nothing improving related to the memory. It actually got worse. With F20 i coud'nt post on XMP at all. With F30 i coud'nt past even the 2933Mhz which normally was working as intented. However, if it fails the first time, it wont be setting any of the memory settings you apply at all. Even CAS 9 was accepted but completely not applied. Only a "hard reset" of the bios was possible.

I reverted back to F20, i have a Corsair LPX set of 2x 16GB, 3200Mhz as intended, it worked before with a X470-F but fails with a X570 Elite. The best thing i can do is post at 3133Mhz and with a slight baseclock increase come close to 3200Mhz. That's all there is to it really. Gigabyte is shit in relation of bios, really.
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#9
PrEzi
Jism
Ok,

www.gigabyte.com/nl/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

I'm going to flash the X570 Aorus Elite, esp because of the Memory compatibility. I cant get this kit to work at intended, XML profile and running at 3000Mhz with a bit tighter timings. This kit used to work on my previous board including the XML profile just fine on the Asus X470-F. Lets see how it goes!



Ok, for me, this bios was utterly shit. There is nothing improving related to the memory. It actually got worse. With F20 i coud'nt post on XMP at all. With F30 i coud'nt past even the 2933Mhz which normally was working as intented. However, if it fails the first time, it wont be setting any of the memory settings you apply at all. Even CAS 9 was accepted but completely not applied. Only a "hard reset" of the bios was possible.

I reverted back to F20, i have a Corsair LPX set of 2x 16GB, 3200Mhz as intended, it worked before with a X470-F but fails with a X570 Elite. The best thing i can do is post at 3133Mhz and with a slight baseclock increase come close to 3200Mhz. That's all there is to it really. Gigabyte is shit in relation of bios, really.
Have been building Systems with different mainboards since forever now. ZEN-based ones since the very beginning (early adopter) and I have had no problems to get the memory modules to run at a specified rate (even on ZEN1 after a few AGESA updates eventually). If you think you set XMP and you are golden you are utterly wrong, and it has little to do with the manufacturer and the "UEFI quality" which you are mentioning.
Manufacturers receive the whole AGESA code precompiled and ready to be integrated and there is little they can do to tweak it (or break it).
Why are you wrong on thinking setting XMP on AMD platform should always work and if it doesn't then everyone but you are at fault? Cause XMP standard was developed by/for Intel and then since AMD lacked an established similar standard -- it has been added to AMD platform eventually. The problem with XMP is it doesn't store 70% of crucial parameters to make memory work as expected on each and every AMD platform.... and for those all missing values either defaults or calculated defaults are being added. And this derriviation of defaults from XMP might (and 99% times) is wrong to some extend.... If it was running on one platform it might have been your luck --- good memory controller or --- XMP defaults were pushing the memory to its limits but it was still stable.

I would advise you to use a tool that helped me get the memory stable each and every time (eventually) --- starting from the first gen ZEN up to the current generation, on virtually all the Motherboard brands (however I tend to prefer ASRock, some MSIs and Gigabyte). Use RyZEN Memory Calculator by 1usmus (you can find it here). Start with safe values and use the memory tuning diagram from 1usmus. Eventually you will reach what you are looking for. Sometimes on extreme cases (e.g. on TRX4 all 8 memory banks populated with DS memory, 128GB, and mix of 2 4x16GB kits // B-Die and Hynix) I needed to loosen the timings suggested by RAM Calculator but reached 3200 stable.
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#10
Jism
PrEzi
I needed to loosen the timings suggested by RAM Calculator but reached 3200 stable.
Yep i understand that all, and ive bin building computers since i was young as well, but the previous motherboard, a X470-F had no problems running this combination. Even 3533Mhz was possible and it ran very well. Now initially the NIC died on that board, which was a Intel based nic and they are being flagged as problem series of Intel. I think it ran for 2 or 3 months before it completely died out after using a wireless controller. So i bought a 240 euro X570 board, knowing i'll upgrade some day, but whatever i do, even setting things in manually, will not work properly as intended. There's too much of a setting to really start digging into it as this is a workstation and i expect it to run 24/7 flawless. Cant be tweaking too much. When i flashed the bios, none of the settings after a wrongfull applied setting in the bios, would be applied, meaning that if i even hit cas 9 it say in the bios it's selected but windows reports cas 16. So i reverted back to F20 bios, dialled everything in, did some manual timing tuning and tested with memtest, saved the whole thing and it's back up again.

Next time i avoid LPX based memory, i'll just go for a brand thats known to be rock solid on various platforms. I had to pick the LPX series because there was no other available at the time of assembling the computer together. I think i run at 3133Mhz with CL16 or so and some adjusted timings. It's close to what it was intended for, i dont believe a "bad" memory controller since thats integrated within the CPU these days and that kit used to work on the previous board and even out of spec without issues.

it's a mess with gigabyte in particular, it states that this combo has better memory compatibility, well hell no, lol.
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#11
Caring1
Thanks MSI for forcing people to sign in to see the support section. :kookoo: :rolleyes:
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#12
night.fox
Asus had that bios update some few weeks ago. Had to roll back because my OCed rams are not stable
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#14
ZephCloud
it's in my dragon center program. not on my motherboard page. but i don't think i need to update yet. xD
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#15
leepox
Do agesa updates stabilise IF clocks? I'm currently at 3666 instead of 3733 because of minor instabilities with 3733 (random reboots for example), but otherwise weirdly passes memtest86 which is bizzare as heck.
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#16
Caring1
lynx29
hmm? I don't have to sign in at all to see the BIOS download page...

www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MAG-X570-TOMAHAWK-WIFI
Maybe you have an account already.
It's been mentioned by at least one other member here that all they could see was a spinning wheel, much like I had until I made an account and signed in.
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#17
night.fox
leepox
Do agesa updates stabilise IF clocks? I'm currently at 3666 instead of 3733 because of minor instabilities with 3733 (random reboots for example), but otherwise weirdly passes memtest86 which is bizzare as heck.
As I previously posted, Asus had this agesa update on their bios. I have to roll back because my RAM is not stable. I was stable at 3733mhz and I could not get it stable with this agesa update
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#18
leepox
night.fox
As I previously posted, Asus had this agesa update on their bios. I have to roll back because my RAM is not stable. I was stable at 3733mhz and I could not get it stable with this agesa update
Awesome thanks for letting me know, I'll avoid this update then.
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Degrader
leepox
Do agesa updates stabilise IF clocks? I'm currently at 3666 instead of 3733 because of minor instabilities with 3733 (random reboots for example), but otherwise weirdly passes memtest86 which is bizzare as heck.
For me on the Gigabyte B550I Auros PRO AX the latest BIOS version (F10a) gives me better results than previous versions. I can now get the IF clock and RAM at 1900 / 3800MHz with default SOC voltage, this wasn't possible on the older versions:
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#21
leepox
Degrader
uros PRO AX the latest BIOS version (F10a) gives me better res
Hmmmm... given that the comment was based on a x570 and I have a B550, I might just take your advice and do the upgrade! I just want to touch 3733 stable and I would be happy.
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#22
Degrader
leepox
Hmmmm... given that the comment was based on a x570 and I have a B550, I might just take your advice and do the upgrade! I just want to touch 3733 stable and I would be happy.
What is your CPU? Mine is a 3600X. Also make sure that your RAM can handle 3733MHz.
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#23
leepox
I've got a 3900x and my RAM is a 4400hz cl21 Samsung b die (currently running cl15 at 3666 at the moment)
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#24
Degrader
You may need to loosener your RAM timings more or put more DRAM voltage to it (e.g. 1.4V), but it really should be possible.
Someone on tweaktown has reached 2300 / 4600MHz with a Renoir CPU on Agesa 1.0.8.1.
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