Friday, September 9th 2022

Not All First Generation PCIe 5.0 SSDs Will Offer the Same Performance

The first batch of PCIe 5.0 SSDs are all likely to be based on Phison's PS5026-E26 controller, which offers eight NAND channels, capable of supporting NAND speeds of up to 2400 MT/s. Phison's own figures for the controller are 13 GB/s writes and 12 GB/s reads, with up to 1.5 million random read IOPS and 2 million random write IOPS. However, as we've already seen from various SSD brands, many PCIe 5.0 SSDs won't exceed 10 GB/s when it comes to the sequential read/write speeds. This is because the current NAND flash simply isn't fast enough to saturate the PCIe 5.0 bus, which is capable of 15.75 GB/s. That said, Micron's 232-layer 3D NAND should be able to boost the performance up to 12.4 GB/s based on the numbers Gigabyte announced for their Aorus Gen 10000 SSD.

Based on an article over at Tom's Hardware, we shouldn't expect too many drives that exceed 10 GB/s sequential writes at launch, due to most drives using 176-layer 3D NAND flash, that is limited to 1600 MT/s. As such, it might be wise to hold off on buying the first generation of PCIe 5.0 drives and wait for better availability of 232-layer 3D NAND, as beyond Micron, SK Hynix is expected to have a 238-layer 3D NAND flash in the market sometime in the first half of 2023. If you're not really eager to have the fastest SSD out there for pure bragging rights, it would seem that mid 2023 might be the right time to get a PCIe 5.0 SSD.
Source: Tom's Hardware
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55 Comments on Not All First Generation PCIe 5.0 SSDs Will Offer the Same Performance

#51
Wirko
evernessinceThat's nice but unfortunately the savings per TB don't translate to the higher capacity models. 8TB (Samsung is the only company with 8TB consumer facing models) is still $87.50 / TB and that's considering it's QVO which has lower endurance.

The rate at which SSD price per TB has been decreasing has been extremely slow and that's in light of the fact that endurance continues to decline. Someone is going to have innovate in the field because continuously reducing endurance is not a sustainable path towards cost effective larger capacity SSDs. File sizes continue to increase so you cannot expect customers to buy SSDs of raising capacity but continuously diminishing endurance (mind you this will play over 10+ years).
300 rewrite cycles would still be fairly good, we need storage drives after all. But we usually associate low (and still decreasing) endurance with poor (and still decreasing) reliability and quality, and that's certainly not good.
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#52
The Von Matrices
evernessince18TB is the current price / performance winner if you are looking at buying now. There's a steep up-charge for 22TB drives and a smaller but definitely noticeable up-charge for 20TB.

I would not buy above 18TB unless you absolutely need the space now. The price of the higher capacity drives tend to drop pretty sharply until they go under $280 and then their value starts retaining better.
I was pricing out replacing my NAS disks recently and found that 14TB disks have the best capacity/price. You're right in that 20TB and 22TB drives make no financial sense being twice the price of an 18TB drive, but if you're looking for the lowest priced storage for an array, then you need to look at disks smaller than 18TB.
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#53
evernessince
The Von MatricesI was pricing out replacing my NAS disks recently and found that 14TB disks have the best capacity/price. You're right in that 20TB and 22TB drives make no financial sense being twice the price of an 18TB drive, but if you're looking for the lowest priced storage for an array, then you need to look at disks smaller than 18TB.
You can get refurb 18TB for $250 (13.8 USD / TB) vs OEM 14TB for $209 (14.9 USD / TB). The refurb comes with a 5 year warranty, the OEM does not. You can find 14TB refurbs for cheaper but they are older and often only come with a 1 year warranty due to their age.

Most of the enterprise world is on the higher capacity drives which means you can find plenty of refurbs for cheap and they are new. These are often drives that just had a failed motor and the refurb testing process is more strenuous than what a new drive receives.

Considering that the 18TB drives have a higher density, speed, and price when you know where to look I'd definitely call them superior. You are much less likely to get old stock with an 18TB drive to boot.

Also do note, many drives sold on Newegg and Amazon are OEM drives even if the product page says it comes with a warranty. Always check your drive serial number and always run a new drive through a full write / wipe to ensure proper functioning of the mechanics and ensure the disk surface doesn't have any imperfections. Preferably with real data although there are synthetic tests around for this purpose.
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#54
AusWolf
WirkoDid All First Generation PCIe 4.0 SSDs Offer the Same Performance?
Exactly what I thought. This is just the normal sequence of product development. First, we have the interface, later we have the controllers and NAND that can actually use it. I fail to see where the news value is.
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#55
BluesFanUK
Don't care, give us higher capacities please!!!!
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