Wednesday, October 1st 2025

Microsoft Releases Windows 11 25H2... With Zero New Features?

Microsoft has officially released Windows 11 version 25H2 after months of testing and previews. Delivered as a lightweight enablement package (eKB), 25H2 update is not a complete OS replacement but a light switch that turns on feature code already present on machines running 24H2. Microsoft stages new features inside regular cumulative updates in a disabled state. When the eKB is installed, it flips those flags, and a single restart activates the features, upgrading the device to 25H2 with minimal downtime. Because 24H2 and 25H2 share a servicing branch, they utilize the same codebase and servicing pipeline, which provides annual feature updates with the same efficiency and reliability as monthly updates. That helps reduce package size and installation time, making the transition from 24H2 to 25H2 about as easy as rebooting. The only difference between 25H2 and 24H2 is the support duration. For example, 25H2 Enterprise and Education Windows 11 versions move to a 36-month cycle, while Pro editions follow a 24-month cycle, typical for all Windows 11 24H2 builds.

With the 25H2 update, Microsoft is not focusing on significant under-the-hood changes or a visual overhaul, which were common in previous updates. Instead, the emphasis is primarily on security improvements. For instance, Microsoft is removing features like PowerShell 2.0 and Windows Management Instrumentation command-line (WMIC) during installation. These features were previously deprecated due to vulnerabilities to security exploits. Additionally, IT administrators now have the ability to remove pre-installed Microsoft default apps using Group Policy/MDM CSP on Enterprise and EDU devices.
If you want 25H2 right away, flip on "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" in Windows Update to move your PC earlier in the staged rollout, but keep in mind Microsoft can delay the update for devices with detected issues (like driver or app incompatibilities) until those are fixed, so it still might not show up immediately. If you'd rather upgrade straight from 24H2 to 25H2, download the enablement package that matches your system architecture from Microsoft's website.
Source: Windows Blog
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122 Comments on Microsoft Releases Windows 11 25H2... With Zero New Features?

#1
cinemaware
But if it had new features, people would complain as well. Can't win, really ;)
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#2
Kwadratowicz
Trrrryt
cinemawareBut if it had new features, people would complain as well. Can't win, really ;)
I've got with windows only 3 faults: it's spyware, updates have chance to be problematic, and with newer versions of windows there is a chance that If You are using old version some games could not play even if it's the "same" windows (be it 10, or 11).
And I'm going to install windows 11 ltsc on My second computer still :banghead:
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#3
Jermelescu
KwadratowiczI've got with windows only 3 faults: it's spyware, updates have chance to be problematic, and with newer versions of windows there is a chance that If You are using old version some games could not play even if it's the "same" windows (be it 10, or 11).
And I'm going to install windows 11 ltsc on My second computer still :banghead:
Can you tell me some problems? Never have I ever had problems with Windows updates. What I did have problems with tho is drivers and shitty BIOS from Asus.
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#4
Vayra86
cinemawareBut if it had new features, people would complain as well. Can't win, really ;)
How about not providing updates for a while and actually just having a stable OS?

I know, its almost blasphemy but hey, common sense ain't common.

Windows has been done for the better part of 10 years now.
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#5
Kwadratowicz
Trrrryt
JermelescuCan you tell me some problems? Never have I ever had problems with Windows updates. What I did have problems with tho is drivers and shitty BIOS from Asus.
Windows 11 update has made that PC with 11 can't reach to shared folder on windows 10 through local network.
I've spend like 2 hours searching how to make it work, but now I just have shared folder from windows 11 pc, and rest can exchange stuff through this folder on 11.
Brother had installed with update that stupid AI from Microsoft, and it was making pc slow, after unistalling this AI pc has come back to work normally.
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#7
SemXL
saying it has no new features is incorrect

MS roll out features gradully during the year in small updates with some of them being disabled by having the feature flag as "off" and then at the end of the year they release a small update called the enablement package changing the version number and fliping the rest of the feature switches to "on"

if you compare 24H2 fresh from this time last year to the version of windows now its not the same
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#8
TheDeeGee
The features are the new bugs.
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#9
Onasi
DeathtoGnomesDont do it, you are at risk to brick.
TheDeeGeeThe features are the new bugs.
It’s literally an enablement package like 23H2 was to 22H2. There are no changes made to the OS, so this go around no bugs caused by the update itself and “bricking” anything would be a challenge.
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#10
_roman_
I think the Version STring was teh same when i pushed the Upgrade Version Package. 24h2 Package now fail to install on 25h2, although newer.

I did not saw any differences with an offline user. Same multiple reboots for software installs or windows package installs, block installer, fail installer. Same as w95.

the boottimes are awful. I doubt it is kc3000 2TB, ryzen 7600x, 2x32Gib hynix a Die realted related. i3wm even with entering unlock password for the kernel is faster.

You most likely need the enabler package. I needed it for 23h2 -> 24h2 -> 25h2.
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#11
Heni
Good? Every time they roll out some "new feature" it always ends up botching something up so... Hopefully they'll also get over this yearly release thing altogether. At least that's what I take away from the removal of OS swap previous version/service packs necessitated.
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#12
Aquilino
KwadratowiczWindows 11 update has made that PC with 11 can't reach to shared folder on windows 10 through local network.
I've spend like 2 hours searching how to make it work, but now I just have shared folder from windows 11 pc, and rest can exchange stuff through this folder on 11.
Brother had installed with update that stupid AI from Microsoft, and it was making pc slow, after unistalling this AI pc has come back to work normally.
Windows networking between versions it's always an exciting oportunity to waste lots of hours by tweaking registry keys, enabling and disabling settings, reseting and rebooting...
It's their own protocol and a clusterfuck year after year for decades. That can't be by mistake, that's an ability.
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#13
maxli86
Rule of thumb is always wait few months than update/upgrade.
You won't know what's broken or not stable in this 25H2.
Proably accumulation of all previous update so no major change in this latest build.
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#14
ymdhis
Seems they figured out how to push updates that don't break anything: by having an update do nothing.

Genius!
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#15
wesley1
With the 25H2 update, Microsoft is not focusing on significant under-the-hood changes or a visual overhaul, which were common in previous updates. Instead, the emphasis is primarily on security improvements.
No wonder I don't see any performance improvements, seems all of promised features were cut off. But hey you get more AI++, if you need it. 🤣
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#16
Chomiq
When you're the feature.
Microsoft is removing features like PowerShell 2.0 and Windows Management Instrumentation command-line (WMIC) during installation.
Isn't this targeting the known bypasses?
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#17
chrcoluk
Whats supposed to be the replacement for WMIC, that is functionally and feature equivalent?
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#18
kilo
JermelescuCan you tell me some problems? Never have I ever had problems with Windows updates.
I feel like I need to reply to this. In my small personal circle or my own experiences, 1) home folder was deleted upgrading to 1709, and again with 1809, 2) appx packages uninstalling, 3) privacy setting reverting to defaults (from off to on), and worst of all, 4) 2004 deleting the efi partition on three separate computers (three geographically distant people/computers).
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#19
Niceumemu
I'm happy staying on 23H2, maybe I'll move on from it if Microsoft ever goes back on copilot and recall and permanently removes them from the OS in all the versions after 23H2
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#20
HBSound
For some reason, I can't get my computer to update to 24H2. I have a Windows 10 Ultimate Pro workstation, and it won't upgrade to Windows 11 24H2 for some reason. It goes through the entire upgrade process, upgrades to Windows 11, becomes extremely unstable, and then I receive an error message saying it's going back to Windows 10. I updated all the drivers I could, but nothing has helped.
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#21
N3utro
HBSoundFor some reason, I can't get my computer to update to 24H2. I have a Windows 10 Ultimate Pro workstation, and it won't upgrade to Windows 11 24H2 for some reason. It goes through the entire upgrade process, upgrades to Windows 11, becomes extremely unstable, and then I receive an error message saying it's going back to Windows 10. I updated all the drivers I could, but nothing has helped.
Use the media creation tool from www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11 to generate a bootable usb windows 11 media and use it to fully wipe your system ssd before installing.

That's the clean way to update to 11. Updating from 10 can lead to various issues.
NiceumemuI'm happy staying on 23H2, maybe I'll move on from it if Microsoft ever goes back on copilot and recall and permanently removes them from the OS in all the versions after 23H2
You can uninstall copilot and recall from 24H2 in a few clicks. You can even remove them right at install with an unattend custom file.
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#22
HBSound
N3utroUse the media creation tool from www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11 to generate a bootable usb windows 11 media and use it to fully wipe your system ssd before installing.

That's the clean way to update to 11. Updating from 10 can lead to various issues.
Thank you, this is right on point and what I did consider doing. Thank you so much for this confirmation.
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#23
cinemaware
Vayra86How about not providing updates for a while and actually just having a stable OS?

I know, its almost blasphemy but hey, common sense ain't common.

Windows has been done for the better part of 10 years now.
That's precisely my point. The update doesn't do anything ker-razy, just "focuses on security features" and yet the headline sounds negative, and your post also seems to omit that fact.
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#24
Tomorrow
cinemawareBut if it had new features, people would complain as well. Can't win, really ;)
Damned of you do, damned if you don't.
JermelescuCan you tell me some problems? Never have I ever had problems with Windows updates. What I did have problems with tho is drivers and shitty BIOS from Asus.
Same here. Maybe i've been lucky but no significant problems with updates during the years of using Win 11. Started with 22H2. Then 23H2. Now at 24H2.
Vayra86How about not providing updates for a while and actually just having a stable OS?
Not even security updates?
Doesn't sound like a smart thing to do.
DeathtoGnomesDont do it, you are at risk to brick.
That's a risk for every OS update on every platform. Some have managed to brick their systems on camera even without an OS update...
_roman_You most likely need the enabler package. I needed it for 23h2 -> 24h2 -> 25h2.
There was no enablement package for 24H2.
maxli86Rule of thumb is always wait few months than update/upgrade.
You won't know what's broken or not stable in this 25H2.
Proably accumulation of all previous update so no major change in this latest build.
That's always a good advice. Especially since 24H2 will continue receiving security updates. I generally wait about 6 months before moving to a new major version.
chrcolukWhats supposed to be the replacement for WMIC, that is functionally and feature equivalent?
PowerShell 7.5.3
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#25
trparky
24H2=25H2, 25H2=24H2. There is absolutely no code changes between them, only a stupid version number change.

Sigh.
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