Wednesday, October 1st 2025

Microsoft Releases Windows 11 25H2... With Zero New Features?

Microsoft has officially released Windows 11 version 25H2 after months of testing and previews. Delivered as a lightweight enablement package (eKB), 25H2 update is not a complete OS replacement but a light switch that turns on feature code already present on machines running 24H2. Microsoft stages new features inside regular cumulative updates in a disabled state. When the eKB is installed, it flips those flags, and a single restart activates the features, upgrading the device to 25H2 with minimal downtime. Because 24H2 and 25H2 share a servicing branch, they utilize the same codebase and servicing pipeline, which provides annual feature updates with the same efficiency and reliability as monthly updates. That helps reduce package size and installation time, making the transition from 24H2 to 25H2 about as easy as rebooting. The only difference between 25H2 and 24H2 is the support duration. For example, 25H2 Enterprise and Education Windows 11 versions move to a 36-month cycle, while Pro editions follow a 24-month cycle, typical for all Windows 11 24H2 builds.

With the 25H2 update, Microsoft is not focusing on significant under-the-hood changes or a visual overhaul, which were common in previous updates. Instead, the emphasis is primarily on security improvements. For instance, Microsoft is removing features like PowerShell 2.0 and Windows Management Instrumentation command-line (WMIC) during installation. These features were previously deprecated due to vulnerabilities to security exploits. Additionally, IT administrators now have the ability to remove pre-installed Microsoft default apps using Group Policy/MDM CSP on Enterprise and EDU devices.
If you want 25H2 right away, flip on "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" in Windows Update to move your PC earlier in the staged rollout, but keep in mind Microsoft can delay the update for devices with detected issues (like driver or app incompatibilities) until those are fixed, so it still might not show up immediately. If you'd rather upgrade straight from 24H2 to 25H2, download the enablement package that matches your system architecture from Microsoft's website.
Source: Windows Blog
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122 Comments on Microsoft Releases Windows 11 25H2... With Zero New Features?

#26
ir_cow
Did they just remove the new offline installation bypass mode?
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#27
Onasi
trparky24H2=25H2, 25H2=24H2. There is absolutely no code changes between them, only a stupid version number change.

Sigh.
Yeah, just like 22H2 and 23H2 were the same. MS has JUST finished unification of all Windows-adjacent products under the new kernel. There was no real expectation that 25H2 would be another one.
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#28
Visible Noise
chrcolukWhats supposed to be the replacement for WMIC, that is functionally and feature equivalent?
Windows PowerShell for WMI. Long term will be PowerShell for CIM. For new development you should already be using CIM.
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#29
phanbuey
trparky24H2=25H2, 25H2=24H2. There is absolutely no code changes between them, only a stupid version number change.

Sigh.
That's not true - your FPS decreases with every version.
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#30
DaemonForce
Soooo it's the same bugs and a single digit reason for ladder pulling. Got it.
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#31
R-T-B
Vayra86How about not providing updates for a while and actually just having a stable OS?
Those days are gone for any networked appliance you want to really keep secure longterm.
TomorrowNot even security updates?
Doesn't sound like a smart thing to do.
It really isn't.
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#33
Niceumemu
N3utroYou can uninstall copilot and recall from 24H2 in a few clicks. You can even remove them right at install with an unattend custom file.
And then have microsoft just try and do a hidden installation during an update. No thanks, until they acknowledge how awful both those things are and commit to discontinuing them I'm not downgrading to those versions
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#34
phints
I see the 25H2 image for download on Microsoft website, but in Windows I click on Windows update and nothing is available. Guess it's just another rolling release. Interest now fading.
phanbueyThat's not true - your FPS decreases with every version.
In what way are people allowed to make these trolling statements and not get removed, yet I had a comment removed last week for correcting someone (albeit rudely)? 24H2 has the highest framerates of any OS for gaming. Try harder.
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#35
Shrek
phintsI see the 25H2 image for download on Microsoft website, but in Windows I click on Windows update and nothing is available. Guess it's just another rolling release.
Just use the enablement package
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#36
N3utro
NiceumemuAnd then have microsoft just try and do a hidden installation during an update. No thanks, until they acknowledge how awful both those things are and commit to discontinuing them I'm not downgrading to those versions


I'm not sure Fox Mulder himself would believe your conspirationists theories
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#37
Niceumemu
N3utro

I'm not sure Fox Mulder himself would believe your conspirationists theories
Microsoft has a very long track record of turning back on telemetry and resetting other security settings that disabled things with updates without informing the user. This is far from being a conspiracy theory
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#38
dont whant to set it"'
Bad as ever, worst still. MS might have lost its plot many moons ago. Can't find main drive/s-files folder, control panel, the usual you know. It all looks hidden behind a search engine of sorts.

=Terrible.
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#39
cvaldes
phintsI see the 25H2 image for download on Microsoft website, but in Windows I click on Windows update and nothing is available. Guess it's just another rolling release. Interest now fading.
I was just able to download the 25H2 ISO on my Mac (I didn't bother with any of the Windows boxes here). It's there sitting in my downloads folder taking up 7.74GB of space.

It's best to be make an informed decision whether or not to upgrade now or to hold off. Here is some news coverage on this release:

www.windowslatest.com/2025/10/01/microsoft-confirms-four-issues-in-windows-11-25h2-but-theyre-not-a-dealbreaker/

www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/microsoft-confirms-windows-11-version-25h2-issues-and-offers-potential-workarounds

wccftech.com/microsoft-windows-11-25h2-version-has-rolled-out-to-users/

www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-media-creation-tool-broken-on-windows-11-arm64-pcs/

And at least one site has posted links to the ISO:

www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/microsofts-official-windows-11-version-25h2-rtm-iso-media-is-now-available-download-all-28-languages-here-for-x64-or-arm64

Up to each individual to decide if these are worth the risk.

Best of luck to all the intrepid souls who love living on the razor's edge!

:):p:D
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#40
phanbuey
phintsIn what way are people allowed to make these trolling statements and not get removed, yet I had a comment removed last week for correcting someone (albeit rudely)? 24H2 has the highest framerates of any OS for gaming. Try harder.

Do some actual research and testing. If you say true statements, you won't get removed. easy.

This version is basically the same as 24h2, no real difference in fps... 24h2 is not as good as 22h2 w10.
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#41
Ordy
OnasiIt’s literally an enablement package like 23H2 was to 22H2. There are no changes made to the OS, so this go around no bugs caused by the update itself and “bricking” anything would be a challenge.
Enabling code can break things. Otherwise its just using disk space doing nothing. The enablement package does make the changes to the OS & so this the time it could potentially 'brick' it.
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#43
mechtech
I don't know why, but when I seen this news this was the first thing that came to mind


lol
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#44
Mysteoa
I saw the update on my company laptop, but by the time my shift was over it wasn't there anymore. I wanted to update, just for the fun of it.
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#45
Tomorrow
NiceumemuMicrosoft has a very long track record of turning back on telemetry and resetting other security settings that disabled things with updates without informing the user. This is far from being a conspiracy theory
That is what O&O ShutUp 10++ is for: www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
After running WU open it and it will point out if any of your settings have changed and offers to revert it.
Win10 does the exact same thing so i dont know why people single out Win11 for this behavior.
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#46
Vayra86
R-T-BThose days are gone for any networked appliance you want to really keep secure longterm.


It really isn't.
Security != features

I get no feature updates on LTSC, but every security update, and I can simply choose when I want to hit the update button to get that cumulative package in. Life is very simple, really.
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#47
azrael
At work we're now pushed to "upgrade" our Windows 10 desktops to Windows 11. I'll be holding out as long as possible, especially considering the extra one year of security updates for EEA users.
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#48
Athlonite
NiceumemuAnd then have microsoft just try and do a hidden installation during an update. No thanks, until they acknowledge how awful both those things are and commit to discontinuing them I'm not downgrading to those versions
I Uninstalled both Copilot and Recall and neither of them have been stealth reinstalled via windows update so I don't know where you got that info from but it's wrong
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#49
AleXXX666
OnasiIt’s literally an enablement package like 23H2 was to 22H2. There are no changes made to the OS, so this go around no bugs caused by the update itself and “bricking” anything would be a challenge.
www.partitionwizard.com/news/windows-11-23h2-vs-22h2.html
Windows 11 23H2 vs 22H2 Features
In general, Windows 11 23H2 includes all the features of Windows 11 22H2. In addition, many new features are added to Windows 11 23H2. For example:

:D:mad:Microsoft Copilot. It is a chatbot developed by Microsoft. If you enable it in Windows, you can use natural words to control all components on your computer. Microsoft Copilot is also available in Edge and Office. In addition, a dedicated Copilot key was announced for Windows keyboards.
:rockout::clap:The native RAR, 7z, and TAR support. By using the libarchive open-source project, Windows 11 can now read and write TAR, 7z, RAR (read-only), and other archive file formats.
:rolleyes::oops:The Windows Backup app. It can quickly get your current PC backed up and ready to move to a new PC.
:mad::mad:In addition, Windows 11 23H2 also improves many existing features of Windows 11 22H2 and fixes many bugs. Windows 11 23H2 also removes some features. But don’t worry, these features are removed because only a few people use them. Therefore, removing these features will not affect your user experience.



Not the same, duh?:rolleyes:;)
ir_cowDid they just remove the new offline installation bypass mode?
no. Installed win 11.25H2 from "business" iso to VirtualBOX, disconnected Vbox network adapter and windows hasn't even asked for network lmfao, just created local account straightforward.:):peace::laugh:
phanbueyThis version is basically the same as 24h2, no real difference in fps... 24h2 is not as good as 22h2 w10.
both 10.22h2 and 11.24h2 have "shared" "features" (f..ed up some updates):rolleyes::oops: that's why I use now 10.21H2 and 11.21/22H2 with disabled "feature updates".:)
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#50
Grimling
no new features?
well the new "features" are a more advanced AI-Surveillance, that the user can not deactivate.
so its better not to tell them about it...
anyway
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