Now there is actually a reason to buy cheap 7000 series amd gpus with 16gigs of vram.

AusWolfBut if they said "we're working on it" but the project failed, they would have got a lot more flak for it.

I think some of us are looking for problems where there is none at this point. If you're an RDNA 3 user, you've got FSR 4 now, which is great. If you're not an RDNA 3 user, you don't care, which is also great. There's always a reason to be angry about something, but I'd rather take things at face value and be happy when I can. Everything else is a waste of time.

They already have the leaked version that works mostly fine, so at that point they just have to make sure the leaked version / the build they ended up on doesn't have major issues and release it. And everyone will be happy.

Yes I'm a RDNA3 user, I should be happy now, but I was not happy for a few months because of how the situation is poorly managed. And I probably have wasted too much time typing unhappy comments on the situation.

Dr. DroThis is an old feud, don't pay it much mind.

Many folks here on the forum here are quite permissible and forgiving, mostly because they're older folks whose needs and demands aren't exactly as strict anymore, have fond memories of their Radeons of the mid-2000's or dislike Nvidia's way of doing business. I don't particularly blame them for that. Sure, there's also the fanatical clique (I'm sure you can tell 🥰), but overall it tends to be reasonable-y. I stand out like a sore thumb because I'm happy to point out the elephant in the room.

So, I call out on their PR lies and backwards priorities all the time, for example, the insane fact they're currently pushing three driver branches with completely different code bases and functionality under the same name, that they've started to do aggressive market segmentation, etc. - these are truthful and verifiable statements, but it's a rather inconvenient image to have of something you're supposed to idolize, so the negative reaction is quite predictable.



I mean, you know that this was never even in the cards, because from the very start, when we first learned about the existence of FSR 4, all the way back in that first leak... it already worked on all "unsupported" models. It wasn't finished, sure, but 90%+ of the work was already done. It just needed fine tuning and some optimization, which doesn't take 1-2 years to do unless this is the absolute lowest priority.

Well, be angry then. That will totally change the past.

TodestriebAnd I probably have wasted too much time typing unhappy comments on the situation.

Amen. :)

AusWolfWell, be angry then. That will totally change the past.


Amen. :)

Mhm, anger's a pretty strong feeling to be carrying in your heart, don't you think? It's something closer to disappointment than anger

danbert2000Let's just all take a breath. Obviously it would have been nice for AMD to release FSR 4 across their last three gens, but is anyone surprised they started with the easier model first? INT 8 took more work, no surprise, and there was no profit motive to releasing a new feature on old cards. Likely holding FSR 4 until it was ready for all cards would have delayed its release and really undercut RDNA 4's competitive advantage of it didn't have it day 1.

There's definitely a profit motive at this point, if they haven't noticed the negative press they have received for failing to offer the same kind of software support to older cards as Nvidia then they are fools. I spent over a $1100 on a 7900xtx at launch because I was so disgusted by Nvidia's pricing and I wanted to punish Nvidia by going with the competition.
A few years from now i'll have a decision to make, do i go with the product that appears to be better value, or do i go with the one that pushes latest gen features to it's older cards in a timely manner...

Dr. DroMhm, anger's a pretty strong feeling to be carrying in your heart, don't you think? It's something closer to disappointment than anger

Hey, I'm not the one who's angry (or disappointed, or whatever) here, don't turn this around me. :roll:

Dr. DroHmph. No congratulations from me. This should have released a year ago, for the RX 6000 series as well. Without fanfare, without buts or ifs. Just released in a fully functional state for all of their current GPUs. Nothing more than their obligation at this point.

Well, I'm a nagging old man too but I can't suppress some form of 'hurrah!' for this update.

This was long overdue, but its truly a unique selling point AMD now has regained again over Nvidia, let's keep that straight.

JoshreddevilThere's definitely a profit motive at this point, if they haven't noticed the negative press they have received for failing to offer the same kind of software support to older cards as Nvidia then they are fools. I spent over a $1100 on a 7900xtx at launch because I was so disgusted by Nvidia's pricing and I wanted to punish Nvidia by going with the competition.
A few years from now i'll have a decision to make, do i go with the product that appears to be better value, or do i go with the one that pushes latest gen features to it's older cards in a timely manner...

Yep and they should really have communicated on this clearly from the get go if they were intending to push it forward no matter what on RDNA3. That would have helped. Now, its very likely that for many 7000 series buyers the damage is done AND they've had to invest after all to get it fixed.

This is AMD setting itself up for failure in a nutshell.

Dr. DroMhm, anger's a pretty strong feeling to be carrying in your heart, don't you think? It's something closer to disappointment than anger

Now that's some good parenting skills right here

wolfYou're welcome RDNA 3 ;)

I do find it weird AMD users are so upset over the PC gaming community backlash netting an absolute win for RDNA 2-3.5 users both current and future, the word they're looking for is thankyou.

Exactly. Raising hell works sometimes. It worked with Zen 3 support on older chipsets. It worked here. It worked in getting Nvidia to unlaunch the 4080 12GB and correctly rebrand it as the 4070tie. Squeaky wheel gets the oil.

I mean, anyone pretending user backlash made this happen is a funny one. They were already working on this, it's how driver with this partially included was leaked. It was already there, but still work in progress.

It's AMD's endlessly bad timing that constantly makes things look worse than they are or should be.

RejZoRuser backlash made this happen

I doubt it hurt.

RejZoRIt's AMD's endlessly bad timing that constantly makes things look worse than they are or should be.

Now there's something we can all agree on.

When AMD unveiled RDNA 4 at CES 2025, FSR 4 was consistently described as being powered by RDNA 4's ML hardware. Reviewers, press briefings, and AMD's own slides all treated FSR 4 as exclusive to RDNA 4 at launch.The code leak was our first indication it could work on older generations.

Frank Azure said a few weeks ago that no decision has been made on RDNA 3.5 support, and they were still listening to feedback. That's the company itself, indicating how us raising hell influences their decisions. You can argue they are referring to the engineers and other technical folks. But there is precedent for community back lash making things happen. Regardless of how the corpos spin it later.

So, let's add incredibly bad communication skills to the list of reasons why the Radeon division is the embodiment of Hanlon's Razor.

RX 7000 series owners open bottle of Champagne and play those games!

MarkoB88RX 7000 series owners open bottle of Champagne and play those games!

That's it. :)

I mean, yes, AMD's communication is terrible as always. But shouldn't we be happy for the support regardless? Don't we buy graphics cards, and not AMD's PR department with every purchase after all? Aren't we supposed to play games instead of cry for some bad PR, which every company is guilty of at one point or another?

AusWolfThat's it. :)

I mean, yes, AMD's communication is terrible as always. But shouldn't we be happy for the support regardless? Don't we buy graphics cards, and not AMD's PR department with every purchase after all? Aren't we supposed to play games instead of cry for some bad PR, which every company is guilty of at one point or another?

False dilemma fallacy. I can be stoked they added the support, and rub their noses in their own crap concurrently. Along with other options, none of which excluded the others.

And part of that "playing games", is giving me the tools to do it better. FSR4 is one of those tools. If I have to hold their feet to the fire to get them to give it to me, well...I'm their Huckleberry.

DAPUNISHERFalse dilemma fallacy. I can be stoked they added the support, and rub their noses in their own crap concurrently. Along with other options, none of which excluded the others.

There's no fallacy or nose rubbing. Only some...

DAPUNISHERAnd part of that "playing games", is giving me the tools to do it better. FSR4 is one of those tools. If I have to hold their feet to the fire to get them to give it to me, well...I'm their Huckleberry.

I never suggested otherwise. But when you finally get it, it doesn't hurt to be a tiny bit happy about it, right?

With the latest AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.2 graphics driver download, Radeon RX 7000 series gamers can enjoy more than 300 games running FSR 4.1, providing a significant performance boost and finally offering features that RDNA 4 gamers have been enjoying for a while.

About time!!

Two of my mates from our battle hardened and tight knit EFT and B6 squad jumped on Sapphire Pulse 7900 XT cards. Ones driving 1440p and the other 4K. I was eyeing the same card myself back then but coming from a 3080 the uplift wasn't enough to go dirty on the wallet. The 4K lad (especially) will be happy with this 4.1 blessing.

I get the RDNA 2 throughput is weaker and perhaps not worthy of the same blessing but unofficial tools already show its technically doable. 6000-series deserves a taste too, don't leave them lads out in the cold.

Dr. DroAt least withdraw the personal attacks, if you don't like what I have to say.

I dunno dude... have you ever considered just never criticising AMD? Check your privilege.

I am surprised no one has said any thing about it not working on Win10 yet, which leads me to think they did not test it, it will give you a Code 43.

AsRockI am surprised no one has said any thing about it not working on Win10 yet, which leads me to think they marked it available for those users but it will give you a Code 43.

There's another thread for that :D

But it's apparently both user error and Microsoft's fault, go figure :)

Dr. DroThere's another thread for that :D

But it's apparently both user error and Microsoft's fault, go figure :)

TBH the thread should be linked in this one in the 1st post as it is a major f up, ya know just save some one time if they think of trying it.

The error is on AMD for not testing it, if they had done it right they would of noticed.

Nope all AMD, seems like it was not even tested.

AusWolfThat's it. :)

I mean, yes, AMD's communication is terrible as always. But shouldn't we be happy for the support regardless? Don't we buy graphics cards, and not AMD's PR department with every purchase after all? Aren't we supposed to play games instead of cry for some bad PR, which every company is guilty of at one point or another?

No because only AMD is capable of having bad PR, going by the reactions from some here who never criticize any other brands screw ups.
Drivers don't work in a EOL version of Windows? AMD's fault for not telling Microsoft to support Windows 10 longer.
We get FSR and people still find a reason to complain? Must be AMD's fault people are still mad instead of being happy the feature made it to the 7000 series.
Edit- whatever the reason is for the w10 driver bug is, not surprising if no one tested for w10 compatibility, Microslop is forcing w11 on everyone and you'll have to switch at some point if you want to stay on Windows.

Windows 10 being "EOL" has no bearing whatsoever to the 22.6.2 driver bug, mate... you guys all know this. Besides, it's not like Windows 10 is horribly abandoned or anything. Latest build (which I am running) is from June 9

support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/june-9-2026-kb5094127-os-builds-19045-7417-and-19044-7417-bf1073f3-e317-40ac-94c7-4c23c080c7cf

RTKakarottoWhy should they receive applause for something that should've been released almost an entire year before

7 months is almost a year in your opinion?
Vulgarity...

AusWolfBut if they said "we're working on it" but the project failed, they would have got a lot more flak for it.

I think some of us are looking for problems where there is none at this point. If you're an RDNA 3 user, you've got FSR 4 now, which is great. If you're not an RDNA 3 user, you don't care, which is also great. There's always a reason to be angry about something, but I'd rather take things at face value and be happy when I can. Everything else is a waste of time.

That would be an extremely low likelihood especially since the they had the original int8 model, as well as the ability to run FP8 instructions under FP16 (with a performance penalty), overall they would have gotten it working in either case, it is just a matter of how well it would perform.

Overall, the leak of the int8 model and the in the context of those early days, strongly hints at development work taking place, and then someone higher up decided to make it exclusive to RX 9000 cards, thinking it would encourage users to upgrade, then the strong community backlash came, along with pushing many AMD users to Nvidia, and eventually that backlash applied enough pressure for them to reverse course.

In my opinion, this is a more likely chain of events, considering that AMD has a history of short support cycles. By the time the RX 6000 cards came out, it was looking like AMD was really turning things around and improving driver support, and really giving those fine wine vibes. The past 2 generations are what lead me to get the RX 7800XT, as it started to look like AMD was becoming serious about supporting their older hardware to better match Nvidia. That all changed with RX 9000 cards, and how AMD seemed to looking for every way possible to abandon their older cards, and essentially falling back into old habits that caused them to lose most of their market share in the past.

While I am glad that RX 7000 cards are getting FSR 4.1 (though no word on the rest of redstone). AMD did a lot of damage in how they initially behaved and it doesn't feel like they are turning over a new leaf, instead, it feels like the community won a concession this time around, but the status quo has not changes, and the intent is still for older cards to quickly drop to a maintenance branch and not receive feature support unless backlash gets big enough.
Because of all of this, I still strongly feel that my next GPU upgrade, will have me going back to Nvidia. PS, before the 7800XT, I was on a GTX970 (the mining craze and price gouging kept me from upgrading longer than I would have liked, but I am glad Nvidia kept good driver support for so long, i also did a vbios mod to increase the power limit to 250 watts, along with a small voltage increase and GPU and VRAM overclocking).

FSR4 was originally released on March 2025 and during that entire time, they maintained bad PR in regards to older cards.

With that in mind, Unless AMD really puts a lot of work into proving that they are truly changing, my next upgrade will likely be the mid cycle refresh for something like an Nvidia RTX 6070 Ti Super.

DAPUNISHERExactly. Raising hell works sometimes. It worked with Zen 3 support on older chipsets.

The whole point is that AMD was not obliged to do this at all.
But, bruh, on the internet the majority says!11


You remember when Zen 3 came out?

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