Saturday, October 3rd 2026

Used Ryzen 7 5800X3D Gets Buyer Locked Out of Valorant Due to Previous Owner's Cheating

Buying a used Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU has apparently locked its new owner out of Valorant. Reddit user After-Cartoonist-196 posted on r/PCBaumeister that they bought the chip through the German classifieds site Kleinanzeigen and have owned it since September 21. The CPU apparently works fine. However, Valorant kicked them out at launch, even though the game ran normally on their previous processor. Riot support reportedly told them the CPU's ID was blacklisted in Vanguard on August 12 because the previous owner had cheated. The user also claims their motherboard and storage drive got flagged, and that support refused to lift the ban. However, Riot's head of anti-cheat, Phillip Koskinas, responded on X and disputed part of that. Here's what he posted:
Hardware bans last 4 months maximum, they apply only to the game cheats were detected in, and we don't ban "everything else" when we match one component. Support will give you the time remaining on request. If it were up to me, we'd have soul bans that followed them into hell.
By that timeline, this chip should work in Valorant again by mid-December. We still don't know how Vanguard tells one 5800X3D from another, since a CPU doesn't report a unique serial number to Windows. The firmware TPM inside the processor is the likely answer, since Vanguard's on-demand mode requires TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot. Riot hasn't confirmed the method. AMD relaunched the 5800X3D at $350 in June, so plenty of AM4 owners are eyeing used ones right now. Unfortunately, there's no apparent way to check the chip for a ban before buying it.
Sources: Reddit, Heise, Phillip Koskinas on X
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42 Comments on Used Ryzen 7 5800X3D Gets Buyer Locked Out of Valorant Due to Previous Owner's Cheating

#2
Hecate91
Yet another reason to avoid playing these games which insert bootloader level malware. If only these game companies went to the same effort to use server level anti-cheats instead.
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#3
Grimling
Hehe, that is the power of TPM.
Game "requires it". Not for running the Game, but for banning you and blacklisting your Hardware, after you have been cheating (which is stupid to begin with).
Solution: Sell your banned CPU on the used Marked and get a new one!
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#4
SnoutBaron
_roman_So how comes the secure boot, tpm etc, is not related to the motherboard and is purely related to the cpu?
(Get-TpmEndorsementKeyInfo -Hash "Sha256").PublicKeyHash
GrimlingGame "requires it". Not for running the Game, but for banning you and blacklisting your Hardware, after you have been cheating (which is stupid to begin with).
Yes....? That's the point since it's the anti-cheat system that requires it...
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#5
soder
SnoutBaron(Get-TpmEndorsementKeyInfo -Hash "Sha256").PublicKeyHash


Yes....? That's the point since it's the anti-cheat system that requires it...
I would demand companies to publish list if blocked TPM hashes. So when you plan to buy a used CPU / PC, you can ask from the seller this info. Then you can query said hash in a central database.... LOL, I know I know guys... just wetdreaming....!

Oh, almost forgot! People were freaked about the god damn Pentium Serial Number tracking ability. Here you go folks, 20 years later (TPM is with us since some time, so in reality its not 2026 when this sht started), and the same sht disguised in a different coating went already live, and nobody was protesting! In this case its cheaper (and more enduser-safe) to disable the fkin fTPM (the cpu-builtin-one), and use a motherboard pluggable one. That you can replace in case of such crap happens. Oh yeah.. most motherboards no longer have a TPM header, and a TPM module will cost like a full house soon.
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#6
mikesg
It would be more fair, and still cost the cheater $$$ if anti-cheat blocked based on three matching hardware components ...
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#7
jesdals
MysteoaBlessing in disguise.
Totally aggree - haveing to play that game is worse than the CPU
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#8
phanbuey
soderI would demand companies to publish list if blocked TPM hashes. So when you plan to buy a used CPU / PC, you can ask from the seller this info. Then you can query said hash in a central database.... LOL, I know I know guys... just wetdreaming....!

Oh, almost forgot! People were freaked about the god damn Pentium Serial Number tracking ability. Here you go folks, 20 years later (TPM is with us since some time, so in reality its not 2026 when this sht started), and the same sht disguised in a different coating went already live, and nobody was protesting! In this case its cheaper (and more enduser-safe) to disable the fkin fTPM (the cpu-builtin-one), and use a motherboard pluggable one. That you can replace in case of such crap happens. Oh yeah.. most motherboards no longer have a TPM header, and a TPM module will cost like a full house soon.
This would make way too much sense.
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#9
Nucleoprotein
I use SPI TPM i.e. dTPM, does switch to that not resolves this issue? When is enabled in BIOS system dont even detects fTPM. I have switched to dTPM when AMD had micro stutter issues for months with fTPM, switch to dTPM completely resolved stutters before AGESA patches.
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#10
claylomax
"If it were up to me, we'd have soul bans that followed them into hell"

What's this man smoking? 😂
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#11
umeng2002
Remember, the TPM is for your safety.
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#12
theonlyrobert
claylomax"If it were up to me, we'd have soul bans that followed them into hell"

What's this man smoking? 😂
That was admittedly really funny.
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#13
Ripcord
Yet Valve make do with pet Chickens
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#14
Icon Charlie
This is Riot Games. I trust them as much as I trust TenCent.
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#15
pirty_waggen
claylomax"If it were up to me, we'd have soul bans that followed them into hell"

What's this man smoking? 😂
u dont play much online games huh?
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#16
bug
Hecate91Yet another reason to avoid playing these games which insert bootloader level malware. If only these game companies went to the same effort to use server level anti-cheats instead.
When people willingly pay for games that do these things... Stupid is as stupid does.
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#17
A Computer Guy
claylomax"If it were up to me, we'd have soul bans that followed them into hell"

What's this man smoking? 😂
Some flavor of 1984 freeze dried weed probably.
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#18
lexluthermiester
MysteoaBlessing in disguise.
Right? It's not like there's a shortage of great games to play.. and many of them don't have the slimy company policies displayed in this situation..
pirty_waggenu dont play much online games huh?
And?
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#20
Aerpoweron
Curious, why didn't anyone of the Valorant devs thing about people just buying other hardware if they got blocked :D
DrUsmanSaleemBuying a used Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU has apparently locked its new owner out of Valorant. Reddit user After-Cartoonist-196 posted on r/PCBaumeister that they bought the chip through the German classifieds site Kleinanzeigen and have owned it since September 21. The CPU apparently works fine. However, Valorant kicked them out at launch, even though the game ran normally on their previous processor. Riot support reportedly told them the CPU's ID was blacklisted in Vanguard on August 12 because the previous owner had cheated. The user also claims their motherboard and storage drive got flagged, and that support refused to lift the ban. However, Riot's head of anti-cheat, Phillip Koskinas, responded on X and disputed part of that. Here's what he posted:

By that timeline, this chip should work in Valorant again by mid-December. We still don't know how Vanguard tells one 5800X3D from another, since a CPU doesn't report a unique serial number to Windows. The firmware TPM inside the processor is the likely answer, since Vanguard's on-demand mode requires TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot. Riot hasn't confirmed the method. AMD relaunched the 5800X3D at $350 in June, so plenty of AM4 owners are eyeing used ones right now. Unfortunately, there's no apparent way to check the chip for a ban before buying it.
Does the requirement also hold true for Windows 10? My last knowledge is that win 10 does not require secure boot and TPM 2.0 to run Valorant.
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#21
lexluthermiester
AerpoweronMy last knowledge is that win 10 does not require secure boot and TPM 2.0 to run Valorant.
If that is correct, then yeah, that's how you should play it, presuming you have signed up for the Extended Security updates.
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#22
Athena
The problem here isn't TPM at all, it's the DRM that makes too many assumptions thinking that nobody would be using the same CPU... it's quite a flawed approach

While they could use the CPU EK for one metric, they should be gathering more than that, so that they could tell that the mobo is different or any number of other factors

bottom line is DRM is draconian, and it hurts everyone except the cheaters
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#23
b1k3rdude
Hecate91Yet another reason to avoid playing these games which insert bootloader level malware.
This.
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#24
Chrispy_
The Orwellian dystopia is bleeding through into reality a little faster every year.

Tagged and tracked and profiled and convicted, even if the system makes a mistake you are done.
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#25
BoxCutter
RipcordYet Valve make do with pet Chickens
Vavle doesn't do jack shit.
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