Saturday, October 3rd 2026

Used Ryzen 7 5800X3D Gets Buyer Locked Out of Valorant Due to Previous Owner's Cheating

Buying a used Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU has apparently locked its new owner out of Valorant. Reddit user After-Cartoonist-196 posted on r/PCBaumeister that they bought the chip through the German classifieds site Kleinanzeigen and have owned it since September 21. The CPU apparently works fine. However, Valorant kicked them out at launch, even though the game ran normally on their previous processor. Riot support reportedly told them the CPU's ID was blacklisted in Vanguard on August 12 because the previous owner had cheated. The user also claims their motherboard and storage drive got flagged, and that support refused to lift the ban. However, Riot's head of anti-cheat, Phillip Koskinas, responded on X and disputed part of that. Here's what he posted:
Hardware bans last 4 months maximum, they apply only to the game cheats were detected in, and we don't ban "everything else" when we match one component. Support will give you the time remaining on request. If it were up to me, we'd have soul bans that followed them into hell.
By that timeline, this chip should work in Valorant again by mid-December. We still don't know how Vanguard tells one 5800X3D from another, since a CPU doesn't report a unique serial number to Windows. The firmware TPM inside the processor is the likely answer, since Vanguard's on-demand mode requires TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot. Riot hasn't confirmed the method. AMD relaunched the 5800X3D at $350 in June, so plenty of AM4 owners are eyeing used ones right now. Unfortunately, there's no apparent way to check the chip for a ban before buying it.
Sources: Reddit, Heise, Phillip Koskinas on X
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42 Comments on Used Ryzen 7 5800X3D Gets Buyer Locked Out of Valorant Due to Previous Owner's Cheating

#26
Grimling
Chrispy_The Orwellian dystopia is bleeding through into reality a little faster every year.
I just finished Orwells 1984 again, and i can say with confidence, that Orwell was unable to predict the insane level of Surveillance and Control we have today!
Reading 1984 is like reading the past. Orwell had only analog Technology to create the totalitarian dystopia, but that is very limited in nature.
A digital totalitarian dystopia, empowered by AI on the other hand, is unlimited.
Just compare an LG Smart TV with the telescreen Orwell described.
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#27
Tess
lexluthermiesterIf that is correct, then yeah, that's how you should play it, presuming you have signed up for the Extended Security updates.
Win 11 too. TPM/TPM2 isn't required. Well, there's an easy workaround to get past it - Pluton too.

Rufus USB

All possible with CPUs from Nehalem/K10 onward. Those have the POPCNT instruction present that Win11 (24H2) absolutely requires (no work-arounds or patches) or even older CPUs would work as well. I guess there's another nuance: K10 has POPCNT but lacks SSE4.2, which Windows also checks. Luckily there7s a tool called POP4.2 that patches that kernel check and gets 26H2 running on Phenom chips.

Without all that spy-junk all you really lose is Microsoft version of hard drive encryption and I think you have to type a password in manually if you want to use Bitlocker - so, essentially nothing!
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#28
lexluthermiester
TesselatorWin 11 too. TPM/TPM2 isn't required. Well, there's an easy workaround to get past it - Pluton too.

Rufus USB

All possible with CPUs from Nehalem/K10 onward. Those have the POPCNT instruction present that Win11 (24H2) absolutely requires (no work-arounds or patches) or even older CPUs would work as well.
Oh yes! I actively use and promote RUFUS. The POPCNT thing was because of the kernel changes as of 24H2.
TesselatorI guess there's another nuance: K10 has POPCNT but lacks SSE4.2, which Windows also checks. Luckily there7s a tool called POP4.2 that patches that kernel check and gets 26H2 running on Phenom chips.
Didn't know about that. Interesting!
TesselatorWithout all that spy-junk all you really lose is Microsoft version of hard drive encryption and I think you have to type a password in manually if you want to use Bitlocker - so, essentially nothing!
Yeah, no loss at all. I remove it anyway.
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#29
b1k3rdude
BoxCutterVavle doesn't do jack shit.
Also this.
lexluthermiesterYeah, no loss at all. I remove it anyway.
I have never enabled BL, S-boot, TPM on any version of Windows I have installed for myself or someone else, its just not worth to aggro when it eventually goes wrong. And if users want file encryption, then something like Axcrypt that encrypts just the files..
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#30
MikOnTopGG
Why the hell does Valorant care about the hardware we use to run the game? WTF?!
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#31
pabzab
GrimlingI just finished Orwells 1984 again, and i can say with confidence, that Orwell was unable to predict the insane level of Surveillance and Control we have today!
Reading 1984 is like reading the past. Orwell had only analog Technology to create the totalitarian dystopia, but that is very limited in nature.
A digital totalitarian dystopia, empowered by AI on the other hand, is unlimited.
Just compare an LG Smart TV with the telescreen Orwell described.
Come on, we’re talking about banning cheaters from a competitive online game involved in esports with cash prizes.
We take blood and urine samples from professional athletes, and everyone thinks that's normal. In this case, it's just a way for the game developer to ban cheaters.
Making a direct comparison to 1984 book on this specific topic is a bit much.
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#32
pirty_waggen
bugWhen people willingly pay for games that do these things... Stupid is as stupid does.
thread is about valorant. f2p game.
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#33
Hecate91
pabzabCome on, we’re talking about banning cheaters from a competitive online game involved in esports with cash prizes.
We take blood and urine samples from professional athletes, and everyone thinks that's normal. In this case, it's just a way for the game developer to ban cheaters.
Making a direct comparison to 1984 book on this specific topic is a bit much.
Perhaps normal nowadays for competitive e-sports gamers, but some of us remember when companies used to care enough to have server sided anticheats.
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#34
pirty_waggen
Hecate91Perhaps normal nowadays for competitive e-sports gamers, but some of us remember when companies used to care enough to have server sided anticheats.
some examples of these games?
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#35
bug
pirty_waggenthread is about valorant. f2p game.
True, but it didn't invent kernel-level anti-cheat. People that paid for previous titles got us where we are today.
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#36
Robin Seina
So what will happen when fTPM is disabled in BIOS/UEFI? I have disabled mine, because I don't care about my Win10 22h2 automatically upgrading to horrible Win11.
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#37
Chomiq
MikOnTopGGWhy the hell does Valorant care about the hardware we use to run the game? WTF?!
It's a free to play shooter. Meaning setting up a new account is just a few clicks away. IP ban can be too wide, you can change MAC address easily, so they go for something that isn't that easy to change.
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#38
MikOnTopGG
ChomiqIt's a free to play shooter. Meaning setting up a new account is just a few clicks away. IP ban can be too wide, you can change MAC address easily, so they go for something that isn't that easy to change.
Ok. But how would that benefit them?
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#39
Chomiq
MikOnTopGGOk. But how would that benefit them?
Do I really have to explain the concept of anti cheat to you?
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#40
MikOnTopGG
ChomiqDo I really have to explain the concept of anti cheat to you?
No, you don't. But how can you cheat with a CPU that has a different ID?
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#41
Chomiq
MikOnTopGGNo, you don't. But how can you cheat with a CPU that has a different ID?
You swap out the cpu and setup new account for the game, easy.
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#42
MikOnTopGG
ChomiqYou swap out the cpu and setup new account for the game, easy.
Got it. TY.
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