Tuesday, March 16th 2021

Intel Launches 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake": Unmatched Overclocking and Gaming Performance

The 11th Gen Intel Core S-series desktop processors (code-named "Rocket Lake-S") launched worldwide today, led by the flagship Intel Core i9-11900K. Reaching speeds of up to 5.30 GHz with Intel Thermal Velocity Boost, the Intel Core i9-11900K delivers even more performance to gamers and PC enthusiasts.

Engineered on the new Cypress Cove architecture, 11th Gen Intel Core S-series desktop processors are designed to transform hardware and software efficiency and increase raw gaming performance​. The new architecture brings up to 19% gen-over-gen instructions per cycle (IPC) improvement for the highest frequency cores and adds Intel UHD graphics featuring the Intel Xe graphics architecture for rich media and intelligent graphics capabilities. That matters because games and most applications continue to depend on high-frequency cores to drive high frame rates and low latency.
With its new 11th Gen desktop processors, Intel continues to push desktop gaming performance to the limits and deliver the most amazing immersive experiences for players everywhere.

At the top of the stack is the 11th Gen Intel Core i9-11900K, featuring unmatched performance with up to 5.3 gigahertz, eight cores, 16 threads and 16 megabytes of Intel Smart Cache. The unlocked 11th Gen Intel Core desktop processor supports fast memory speeds with DDR4-3200 to help enable smooth gameplay and seamless multitasking on this platform.

Improvements in this generation include:
  • Up to 19% gen-over-gen IPC performance improvement.
  • Up to 50% better integrated graphics performance with Intel UHD graphics featuring Intel Xe graphics architecture.
  • Intel Deep Learning Boost and Vector Neural Network Instructions support to accelerate artificial intelligence (AI) inference—vastly improving performance for deep learning workloads.
  • Enhanced overclocking tools and features for flexible overclocking and tuning performance and experience.
Through close collaboration with more than 200 of the top game developers, Intel brings a host of game, engine, middleware and rendering optimizations to applications so they can take advantage of 11th Gen Intel Core S-series processors to deliver exciting gaming experiences.

Superior Tuning and Stability: 11th Gen Intel Core desktop processors introduce new overclocking tools and features for more flexible tuning to achieve unmatched speeds and superior game performance. This generation includes real-time memory overclocking which enables changes to DDR4 frequency in real time, extending memory overclocking support for H570 and B560 chipsets allowing users to experience overclocking, Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX) 2 and AVX-512 voltage guard band override, and an all new integrated memory controller with wider timings and Gear 2 support (in addition to Gear 1 support).

Media and Streaming Features for Days: The new 11th Gen Intel Core S-series delivers rich media experiences, from AAA gaming to high-definition streaming with additional features including DDR4-3200 MHz support, 20 PCIe 4.0 lanes, Intel Quick Sync Video, enhanced media (10-bit AV1/12bit high-efficiency video coding decode and end-to-end compression), enhanced display (Integrated HDMI 2.0, HBR3), and discrete Thunderbolt 4 and Intel Wi-Fi 6E support.

For more information on Intel 11th Gen Intel Core S-series desktop processors, visit the 11th Gen Intel Core Desktop Processors Product Brief below.

11th Gen Core Processor Models and Pricing (in 1,000-unit tray quantities):
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254 Comments on Intel Launches 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake": Unmatched Overclocking and Gaming Performance

#126
Makaveli
Why_Me
Didn't see the last post .. I'll check it out in a bit. Meanwhile there's a reason Intel puts out locked and unlocked cpu's. Unlocked ones are for the small minority who don't mind paying more for cooling along with a board with heftier VRM's for that small gain it brings. The rest of us look at the benchmarks along with the savings and thank ourselves for going with the locked cpu. That's where the math comes in or didn't you figure that out yet.
I don't buy locked CPU's so no I didn't bother even thinking about it. And i'm not working with a small budget so trying to save a few bucks here and there also not a big deal.

To each his own and good luck.
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#127
Why_Me
Makaveli
I don't buy locked CPU's so no I didn't bother even thinking about it. And i'm not working with a small budget so trying to save a few bucks here and there also not a big deal.
Yet it is a big deal with most buyers.

The Z boards allow for that unlocked cpu to be OC. Factor in the cost of the board vs the B560 boards, the cost for better cpu cooling and the cost of the unlocked cpu vs the locked cpu. That difference will get you a 1TB nvme SSD with money left over.

www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119372
ASUS PRIME Z590-P $189.99

www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119384?Item=N82E16813119384
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS $119.99
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#128
Tom Sunday
efikkan
People are too fixated about specs, specs which they usually know little about. We have no confirmation of the launch window for Alder Lake. It could be very late 2021, but quite possibly later.

Intel Reports First-Quarter 2021 financial results on Thursday, April 22, 2021 at the close of market. I am quite sure that the Intel boys will then let the plain facts tell the story. Discussions with their major attending institutional investors will be addressing their "readily available" Z590 product (by then on the market in full swing) and the Alder Lake arrival and its progress later this year. The pallette of their Z590 CPU's which are produced in Intel very owned foundries is expected to be selling like hotcakes. It is said that many enthusiasts simply cannot wait any longer to upgrade and then additionally to relish in the Z590 motherboard offerings. Better chipset expansion and PCIe 4.0 leading the way. Wall Street in turn is no longer in favor of AMD and prefers Intel as it can deliver for now guaranteed CPU production, deliveries and sales unlike AMD. It is well known that AMD has major production problems and is already in talk to expanding its subcontracting of their chipsets. TSMC, the world’s largest contract manufacturer of chipsets was not able to meet AMD's expectations. The engagement of an additional (overseas) new chip contractor will however take time as to complete factory retooling is necessary and as much as 120-180 days before full production is realized. AMD once the investment darling has also recently dropped in stock value and the fact remains that Wall Street has no memory. My take-away: AMD should get their own USA based foundries and get complete control of their fate and not finding it overseas. Furthermore, there are downsides to working with multiple foundry partners. AMD would be paying twice to design the same CPU, and each version would have to be customized to the foundry it was built on. We are living in interesting times.
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#129
Why_Me
Rocket Lake cpu's listed on US & UK sites for less than 48 hours now and they're already dropping the prices on those cpu's. Intel once again showing the :love:
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#130
Octopuss
Unmatched power consumption too?
(haven't made up my mind whether it's even worth reading the article yet :D)
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#131
Tom Sunday
Why_Me
Rocket Lake cpu's listed on US & UK sites for less than 48 hours now and they're already dropping the prices on those cpu's.
Yes Sir...I love competition and what it does for the man on the street like me. With WFH and part-time jobs with no benefits prevailing cash remains king. I am dreaming about a Z590 Asus mobo as well but those prices are also out of reach. Perhaps coming-off a 10 plus year older PC set-up, I should consider in going with a Z490 upgrade approach and wait for those hardware components to go on sale.Thoughts?
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#132
Why_Me
Tom Sunday
Yes Sir...I love competition and what it does for the man on the street like me. With WFH and part-time jobs with no benefits prevailing cash remains king. I am dreaming about a Z590 Asus mobo as well but those prices are also out of reach. Perhaps coming-off a 10 plus year older PC set-up, I should consider in going with a Z490 upgrade approach and wait for those hardware components to go on sale.Thoughts?
Tough to recommend a Z board and unlocked cpu these days when the locked cpu's are going head to head with the unlocked cpu's by a simple manipulation of the block multiplier on a B560 board.
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#133
agentnathan009
Why_Me
Rocket Lake cpu's listed on US & UK sites for less than 48 hours now and they're already dropping the prices on those cpu's. Intel once again showing the :love:
Nah, they are admitting they have an inferior product!
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#134
Why_Me
agentnathan009
Nah, they are admitting they have an inferior product!
No doubt that AMD cpu's are superior to Intel's when it comes to cpu intensive task. With that said the average buyer who is looking at a general office build and/or gaming build will most likely go Intel for not only the savings but also the simple plug & play Intel builds offer. Watch Intel continue to drop the price on their cpu's knowing that AMD can't afford to do the same due to AMD's junior league manufacturing & distribution methods.
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#135
agentnathan009
Why_Me
No doubt that AMD cpu's are superior to Intel's when it comes to cpu intensive task. With that said the average buyer who is looking at a general office build and/or gaming build will most likely go Intel for not only the savings but also the simple plug & play Intel builds offer. Watch Intel continue to drop the price on their cpu's knowing that AMD can't afford to do the same due to AMD's junior league manufacturing & distribution methods.
AMD was a serious competitor to Intel back in the day, but they made some poor choices around 15-20 ago that lead to Intel growing a lot with the Core architecture. AMD is not in the junior leagues, they are churning out competitive and superior products. They haven’t recaptured the market share that they lost over the years. Ryzen uarch is helping them regain market share, and giving Intel much needed competition to drive innovation from both companies. AMD used to own all their own fabs but sold them off to get leaner and pay debt. Intel is stumbling badly trying to get 10nm node up and running smoothly whereas TSMC has left them in the dust with node shrinks. Obviously their respective nodes are not directly comparable, but I say this to point out that Intel isn’t doing so hot right now. AMD is spread a bit thin with manufacturing from TSMC, but they don’t have to fund their own chip fan I g, they let TSMC deal with those headaches, but that can also be a problem for them if something goes south for TSMC.

Also, you forget that AMD offers very competitive Ryzen CPU with onboard graphics that decimate Intel’s offerings and at a lower price point for OEM and system builders. The average Joe wanting a home office computer is t buying the chips we buy, they are buying the Ryzen 4000 series powered computers.
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#136
Why_Me
agentnathan009
AMD was a serious competitor to Intel back in the day, but they made some poor choices around 15-20 ago that lead to Intel growing a lot with the Core architecture. AMD is not in the junior leagues, they are churning out competitive and superior products. They haven’t recaptured the market share that they lost over the years. Ryzen uarch is helping them regain market share, and giving Intel much needed competition to drive innovation from both companies. AMD used to own all their own fabs but sold them off to get leaner and pay debt. Intel is stumbling badly trying to get 10nm node up and running smoothly whereas TSMC has left them in the dust with node shrinks. Obviously their respective nodes are not directly comparable, but I say this to point out that Intel isn’t doing so hot right now. AMD is spread a bit thin with manufacturing from TSMC, but they don’t have to fund their own chip fan I g, they let TSMC deal with those headaches, but that can also be a problem for them if something goes south for TSMC.

Also, you forget that AMD offers very competitive Ryzen CPU with onboard graphics that decimate Intel’s offerings and at a lower price point for OEM and system builders. The average Joe wanting a home office computer is t buying the chips we buy, they are buying the Ryzen 4000 series powered computers.
Intel is dropping prices while AMD is raising theirs in some countries. If AMD learned anything from this virus, it's don't have a junior league manufacturing & distribution setup if you want to trade blows with Team Blue. btw how good of onboard graphics does one require to run MS Office @ 1080P.
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#137
Mussels
Moderprator
HenrySomeone
Twice the power, huh? Not in your average workloads and certainly not while gaming - actually AMD still manages to hold "the crown" in that regard:



An average is not the same as peak - and the intels DO peak much much higher

It also rubs in the point that the intels are fast... but only for a few seconds before they have to slow down again.
Of course everyone just slaps in an all core OC to fix that issue, shooting the wattage back up again
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#138
agentnathan009
Why_Me
Intel is dropping prices while AMD is raising theirs in some countries. If AMD learned anything from this virus, it's don't have a junior league manufacturing & distribution setup if you want to trade blows with Team Blue. btw how good of onboard graphics does one require to run MS Office @ 1080P.
When you can buy two AMD desktops for the price of one Intel, it is a can be a no brainer for some businesses. Marketing can talk up onboard graphics for DOTA, Fortnight, etc. for the very casual gamer and AMD lays the smackdown on Intel in this category.

store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/business-solutions/prodesk-600-mini#!&tab=vao

store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/business-solutions/hp-prodesk-405-mini#!&tab=vao
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#139
Minus Infinity
Gee you'd have to be desperate to get this toaster rather than wait for Alder Lake. Alder Lake will have 20% IPC uplift but massive multi-thread uplift. Alder Lake looks likely to give AMD a hurry up and even Zen3+ might not be enough to overtake it. Rocket Lake is a desperate move to win 1080p laming benchmarks, because hey I spend big dollars on high-end CPU and GPU to play at 1080p.
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#140
Chrispy_
Minus Infinity
Gee you'd have to be desperate to get this toaster rather than wait for Alder Lake. Alder Lake will have 20% IPC uplift but massive multi-thread uplift. Alder Lake looks likely to give AMD a hurry up and even Zen3+ might not be enough to overtake it. Rocket Lake is a desperate move to win 1080p laming benchmarks, because hey I spend big dollars on high-end CPU and GPU to play at 1080p.
Alder Lake won't compete with Zen3, at least not for long. AMD's answer to Alder Lake already exists in the flesh - as Epyc engineering samples, and it's reported to have 29% higher IPC than Zen3.

By the time Alder Lake and DDR5 hit mass market, AMD will be selling something 29% faster than Zen3 on TSMC 5nm and I don't know about you but I trust TSMC more than Intel's still no-show for any high-performance 10nm parts. 10nm might be better than it was but there are no desktop, server, or datacenter products made using 10nm. It's flaky and unimpressive - we've had a bunch of Ice Lake laptops and they run hot and slow, two have gone back under warranty for IGP failure. Tiger Lake may be better but once bitten, twice shy so I've never used one.
Tom Sunday
Yes Sir...I love competition and what it does for the man on the street like me. With WFH and part-time jobs with no benefits prevailing cash remains king. I am dreaming about a Z590 Asus mobo as well but those prices are also out of reach. Perhaps coming-off a 10 plus year older PC set-up, I should consider in going with a Z490 upgrade approach and wait for those hardware components to go on sale.Thoughts?
If value for money is important and your existing rig is 10+ years old, just grab an i5-11400 with some DDR4-3200 on a B560 board. It's going to be a vast improvement over a C2Q and if you grab yourself a decent budget 1TB NVMe drive like the WD SN550 or Kingston A2000 you're going to be getting a big upgrade for not a lot of cash.

I'll assume you already have a GPU, if not stick with the HD 750 IGP until GPUs are available again. Amusingly the GTX 970 is terrible for mining so those are going for a reasonably price on ebay (£125 or so) which makes them "good" performance/$ if you need something right now that's approximately capable of 1080p60 in plenty of games.
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#141
Mussels
Moderprator
It's the low VRAM on the 970's crippling them for mining, so yes they're selling cheap

You need about 5GB of VRAM these days for a mining card and they're only 3.5GB of fast VRAM with their fun scandal, so they've been too 'weak' for some time allowing prices to drop
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#142
Vanny
I'd like to see Intel attempt to compete with this:

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#143
Chrispy_
Alexa
I'd like to see Intel attempt to compete with this:


Intel don't even need to attempt, they won The Great Frequency War (that nobody cared about) decades ago! :D


photoshop, you say? how deplorable!
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#144
Vanny
Chrispy_
Intel don't even need to attempt, they won the Frequency wars that nobody cared about decades ago! :D


photoshop, you say? how deplorable!
Holy hell
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#145
Chrispy_
Alexa
Holy hell
That's idle clocks, too. *Cough*
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#146
Why_Me
Chrispy_
If value for money is important and your existing rig is 10+ years old, just grab an i5-11400 with some DDR4-3200 on a B560 board. It's going to be a vast improvement over a C2Q and if you grab yourself a decent budget 1TB NVMe drive like the WD SN550 or Kingston A2000 you're going to be getting a big upgrade for not a lot of cash.

I'll assume you already have a GPU, if not stick with the HD 750 IGP until GPUs are available again. Amusingly the GTX 970 is terrible for mining so those are going for a reasonably price on ebay (£125 or so) which makes them "good" performance/$ if you need something right now that's approximately capable of 1080p60 in plenty of games.
This ^^
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#147
Tom Sunday
Chrispy_
Alder Lake won't compete with Zen3, at least not for long. AMD's answer to Alder Lake already exists in the flesh - as Epyc engineering samples, and it's reported to have 29% higher IPC than Zen3.

By the time Alder Lake and DDR5 hit mass market, AMD will be selling something 29% faster than Zen3 on TSMC 5nm and I don't know about you but I trust TSMC more than Intel's still no-show for any high-performance 10nm parts. 10nm might be better than it was but there are no desktop, server, or datacenter products made using 10nm. It's flaky and unimpressive - we've had a bunch of Ice Lake laptops and they run hot and slow, two have gone back under warranty for IGP failure. Tiger Lake may be better but once bitten, twice shy so I've never used one.


If value for money is important and your existing rig is 10+ years old, just grab an i5-11400 with some DDR4-3200 on a B560 board. It's going to be a vast improvement over a C2Q and if you grab yourself a decent budget 1TB NVMe drive like the WD SN550 or Kingston A2000 you're going to be getting a big upgrade for not a lot of cash.

I'll assume you already have a GPU, if not stick with the HD 750 IGP until GPUs are available again. Amusingly the GTX 970 is terrible for mining so those are going for a reasonably price on ebay (£125 or so) which makes them "good" performance/$ if you need something right now that's approximately capable of 1080p60 in plenty of games.
Many thanks and your points are very well taken and really appreciated. Indeed I am long overdue for a total new 'set-up' and as you probably gleaned from my cobbled together and posted existing system specifications. Even though I am limping along, I am currently on my third Mobo, AIO, GPU and PSU and upgraded memory. Most of which having been costly compliments of Dell's splendid propiatary hardware. For the "New Build" of course I want to be sure first in having all of the new hardware parts on my table. And not finding myself hung-up (as an example) on a GPU unavailability and which money cannot buy. This said my trusty GTX 980ti should be able to carrying me through until the 3000 series cards are readily available at MSRP. Until then I will just play Dishonored, Fallout 4 and Wolfenstein for the 100th time. No rest for the weary.
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#148
Chrispy_
Tom Sunday
Many thanks and your points are very well taken and really appreciated. Indeed I am long overdue for a total new 'set-up' and as you probably gleaned from my cobbled together and posted existing system specifications. Even though I am limping along, I am currently on my third Mobo, AIO, GPU and PSU and upgraded memory. Most of which having been costly compliments of Dell's splendid propiatary hardware. For the "New Build" of course I want to be sure first in having all of the new hardware parts on my table. And not finding myself hung-up (as an example) on a GPU unavailability and which money cannot buy. This said my trusty GTX 980ti should be able to carrying me through until the 3000 series cards are readily available at MSRP. Until then I will just play Dishonored, Fallout 4 and Wolfenstein for the 100th time. No rest for the weary.
980Ti is still a fine card, You'll be fine with it as long as you're not aiming for 1440p144Hz or 4K60. I've just sold my 5700XT for a disgusting price on ebay (more than double what I paid for it brand new) and am currently playing SOTR, Prey, and Borderlands3 DLCs on a vanilla 980 I had lying around. Buttery smooth at max, or near-max graphics settings.

It's easy to get swept up in the hype but AAA games can still look great at 1080p60 and higher resolutions and framerates don't make the game itself any better.
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#149
Mussels
Moderprator
Hah i had an AMD A6 laptop years ago you could change the multi on and windows would read it, but it'd never affect the clocks - we had screenies of 50GHz for shiz n gigs back then

Tom sunday: 980 Ti is still perfectly fine for all 1080p use, or 1440p at lower settings. That extra 2GB makes all the difference in 2021
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#150
Isaac`
Why_Me
I admire value and the fact Intel allows us poors to build a solid gaming rig for cheaper than what AMD allows. That and I'm all for plug & play builds these days. If you look at the System Builders Advice forum on here there's a couple of threads that are two and three pages deep on what RAM to get for an AMD build. I see that and all I can think is 'wtf'.
Yeah thats why their apus are rubbish forcing you to get a dgpu
Vega DUNKS on any intel gpu
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