Friday, May 26th 2017

AMD Announces AGESA Update 1.0.0.6 - Supports up to 4000 MHz Memory Clocks

You've probably heard of AMD's AGESA updates by now - the firmware updates that are ironing out the remaining kinks in AMD's Ryzen platform, which really could have used a little more time in the oven before release. However, kinks have been disappearing, the platform has been maturing and evolving, and AMD has been working hard in improving the experience for consumers and enthusiasts alike. As a brief primer, AGESA is responsible for initializing AMD x86-64 processors during boot time, acting as something of a "nucleus" for the BIOS of your motherboard. Motherboard vendors take the core capabilities of AGESA updates and build on them with their own "secret sauce" to create the BIOS that ultimately populate your motherboard of choice. The process of cooking up BIOS updates built on the new AGESA will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, but AMD's Robert Hallock says you should be seeing BIOSes based on this version halfway through the month of June - if your vendor isn't already providing a Beta version of some kind.

This new AGESA update code, version 1.0.0.6, should be just up the alley of enthusiasts, however, in that it adds a grand total of 26 new parameters for memory configuration, improving the compatibility and reliability of DRAM, especially for memory that does not follow the industry-standard JEDEC specifications (e.g. faster than 2667, manual overclocking, or XMP2 profiles). Below you'll find the 26 parameters that were introduced.
As an added bonus for users interested in virtualization, this new AGESA update also brings something their way, through support for PCI Express Access Control Services (ACS).This capability is especially useful for users that want 3D-accelerated graphics inside a virtual machine. With ACS support, it is possible to split a 2-GPU system such that a host Linux OS and a Windows VM both have a dedicated graphics cards. The virtual machine can access all the capabilities of the dedicated GPU, and run games inside the virtual machine at near-native performance.Source: Community @ AMD
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48 Comments on AMD Announces AGESA Update 1.0.0.6 - Supports up to 4000 MHz Memory Clocks

#1
r9
I wonder how much improvement we will see in Games with Infinite Fabric @4ghz.
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#2
TheGuruStud
But Intel fanboys told me they would never fix this!

Unfortunately, people don't know they can loosen timings to achieve the high mem speeds and think they need ultra-expensive ram. I'm still waiting for a lawsuit on the mem manufacturers *insert skeleton pic*
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#3
Chaitanya
TheGuruStud said:
But Intel fanboys told me they would never fix this!

Unfortunately, people don't know they can loosen timings to achieve the high mem speeds and think they need ultra-expensive ram. I'm still waiting for a lawsuit on the mem manufacturers *insert skeleton pic*
For false advertisement of RAM speeds? Even I am waiting for that lawsuit. Advertising XMP speeds and selling slow RAM should be banned for good. Only G-Skill and Corsair seem to be specify both JEDEC and XMP speeds.
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#4
Joss
With ACS support, it is possible to split a 2-GPU system such that a host Linux OS and a Windows VM both have a dedicated graphics cards. The virtual machine can access all the capabilities of the dedicated GPU, and run games inside the virtual machine at near-native performance.
So ... I can have a low end GPU for my main Linux OS and a high end one to use with Windows and games running on a Virtual box ?
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#5
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
TheGuruStud said:
But Intel fanboys told me they would never fix this!

Unfortunately, people don't know they can loosen timings to achieve the high mem speeds and think they need ultra-expensive ram. I'm still waiting for a lawsuit on the mem manufacturers *insert skeleton pic*
Bet it still only works with the dozen single sided Samsung -B kits.
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#6
Lightofhonor
cdawall said:
Bet it still only works with the dozen single sided Samsung -B kits.
I'm running double sided at 2933 right now. Only thing I've been waiting on is the command rate.
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#7
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Lightofhonor said:
I'm running double sided at 2933 right now. Only thing I've been waiting on is the command rate.
That isn't 4000mhz
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#8
saikamaldoss
cdawall said:
Bet it still only works with the dozen single sided Samsung -B kits.
No I am on 9945 bios on my CH6 and running F4-3200C14D-32GTZ at 3333mhz now. It's a duel rank and I am getting 3399 with BcLk 101.7..
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#9
TheLaughingMan
cdawall said:
That isn't 4000mhz
But it is higher than what every claimed you should be able to get with double-side RAM.
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#10
saikamaldoss
I am attaching my config running stable with AGESA 1.0.0.6 beta bios 9945

I have a duel rank Gskill F4-3200C14D-32GTZ
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#11
HisDivineOrder
Lightofhonor said:
I'm running double sided at 2933 right now. Only thing I've been waiting on is the command rate.
Because one person proves the rule, right? ;) The problem was MOST people couldn't make it work, not that there wasn't a single person out there that couldn't.
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#12
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
by the time you pay for 4Ghz ram and wait for boards and bios's to catch up
you could have just bought a intel setup for less >_>
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#13
Luke51087
OneMoar said:
by the time you pay for 4Ghz ram and wait for boards and bios's to catch up
you could have just bought a intel setup for less >_>
I mean you still have to pay for ddr4 for an intel system as well right?
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#14
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
Luke51087 said:
I mean you still have to pay for ddr4 for an intel system as well right?
yes but you don't need a 100 or 200 dollar kit of ram
b-die is 180 dollars for 16gb so there goes your price/performance advantage
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#15
Lightofhonor
OneMoar said:
yes but you don't need a 100 or 200 dollar kit of ram
b-die is 180 dollars for 16gb so there goes your price/performance advantage
Not sure where you get your RAM, but the cheapest 16GB kit at 4ghz on Newegg is $211 (F4-4000C19D-16GTZ) and is B-dies.

So....
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#16
Luke51087
OneMoar said:
yes but you don't need a 100 or 200 dollar kit of ram
I mean i "dont" have to buy a 200 dollar kit for my system to work either, but it does make a bigger difference on performance to get at least to a 3200 kit
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#17
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
Lightofhonor said:
Not sure where you get your RAM, but the cheapest 16GB kit at 4ghz on Newegg is $211 (F4-4000C19D-16GTZ) and is B-dies.

So....
thank you for making my point for me then
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#18
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
Luke51087 said:
I mean i "dont" have to buy a 200 dollar kit for my system to work either, but it does make a bigger difference on performance to get at least to a 3200 kit
yep and with intel you can throw any old 2133/2400mhz kit in and it won't care
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#19
theoneandonlymrk
Joss said:
So ... I can have a low end GPU for my main Linux OS and a high end one to use with Windows and games running on a Virtual box ?
That's my pickup win there though if im honest im not sure how i would use it or what for but i like the sound of it.
And will definitely try it at some point:)
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#20
Slizzo
OneMoar said:
yep and with intel you can throw any old 2133/2400mhz kit in and it won't care
You could do the same with AMD Ryzen... Not sure what you're getting at here.
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#21
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
Slizzo said:
You could do the same with AMD Ryzen... Not sure what you're getting at here.
you take a performance hit is what I am getting at
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#22
B-Real
Slizzo said:
You could do the same with AMD Ryzen... Not sure what you're getting at here.
And what "old" memory? DDR3? :D And yepp, there is a big increase from 2133 MHz to 2400 MHz in Ryzen performance, too - namely around or more than 10%.
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#23
theoneandonlymrk
Slizzo said:
You could do the same with AMD Ryzen... Not sure what you're getting at here.
You would think intel never needed special requirements from memory over the years or something.
I built two Ryzens and setting memory was a peice of piss , running it at high speeds is the issue and a fix is incoming but some like their drama.
Perhaps we should neg on all amd do, that way intel wins and we can use the same shit for another 5 years just called something faster.
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#24
B-Real
OneMoar said:
by the time you pay for 4Ghz ram and wait for boards and bios's to catch up
you could have just bought a intel setup for less >_>
1. You don't need 4000 MHz RAM. 3200 is more than enough.
2. Your price/performance advantage would still remain against a 6900K with the 4000 MHz RAMs, but with 3200 MHz RAMs you dont even lose it with an 1500X/1600 against a 7700K.
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#25
TheGuruStud
cdawall said:
Bet it still only works with the dozen single sided Samsung -B kits.
If you want tighter timings, yes. But you can take a good 2400 stick and run it at 34-3600 with loose timings. Sure, bandwidth won't increase, but you get the fabric pumped up. That's what I was getting at.

Chaitanya said:
For false advertisement of RAM speeds? Even I am waiting for that lawsuit. Advertising XMP speeds and selling slow RAM should be banned for good. Only G-Skill and Corsair seem to be specify both JEDEC and XMP speeds.
You have a point, but I was referring to collusion in reduced production aka price fixing.
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