Saturday, September 26th 2026

PNY Reportedly Denies Melted RTX 5090 Warranty Claim, Says Native PSU Cables Not Covered

PNY has allegedly denied a warranty claim on a burned-out GeForce RTX 5090 and closed the customer's ticket after he asked which part of the warranty it was citing. Redditor u/Melodic_Initial_1767 says his card died last month after both ends of its 12V-2x6 cable melted, on the GPU side and the power supply side. He says the card ran at stock clocks with no overclock, a power limit set below default, and was idle when it failed. The cable he was using was not a cheap third-party adapter; it came bundled with his ASRock PG-1600G power supply.

According to the Redditor, PNY's denial stated that only a PNY-approved cable or adapter is covered, and that damage from a third-party cable, adapter, or PSU cable falls on that maker instead. He says he checked PNY's warranty document and installation guide and found no mention of approved cables, connectors, or the 12V-2x6 standard in either. When he asked twice which clause backed the denial, a "Senior Technician" reportedly said the decision was final and closed the ticket without answering.
Melting 12V-2x6 connectors have shown up on RTX 5090 cards repeatedly since launch, and independent testing has traced some cases to uneven current distribution across the connector's pins rather than any specific cable brand. Separately, NVIDIA has also faced criticism this month over an RTX 5090 claim it rejected over a faded serial number, so this isn't the only RMA dispute around the card. PNY hasn't issued a public statement yet, and the account so far rests on the customer's word, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.
Source: Reddit
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143 Comments on PNY Reportedly Denies Melted RTX 5090 Warranty Claim, Says Native PSU Cables Not Covered

#101
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
and this is why you don't volunteer information to a vendor when getting a RMA
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#102
csendesmark
R-T-BI know it's worth it but it shouldn't be a hassle at all, is my point.
No customer wants that, but if the customers let these suckers of the hook they going to do it even more.
And if they get to pay the replacement + court fees, well they will learn by the numbers.

So yes, it is also annoying for you as well, but nobody else will do it for you.
And with that you also help the fellow PC builder community as well.
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#103
R-T-B
csendesmarkNo customer wants that, but if the customers let these suckers of the hook they going to do it even more.
And if they get to pay the replacement + court fees, well they will learn by the numbers.

So yes, it is also annoying for you as well, but nobody else will do it for you.
And with that you also help the fellow PC builder community as well.
I dont think anyone implied letting them off the hook was an option. Certainly would not be for me.
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#104
LittleBro
freeagentCorsair is junk to me too, have not owned be quiet.
Corsair AX series are on par with Seasonic Platinum/Titanium series, if not a bit better. Superflower are amazing PSUs, too. While Seasonic themselves design their platform, Corsair licenses platforms.

Anything else, ASsrock, Bequiet, Assuss (some of their PSUs are top not quality - basically rebranded high quality OEM platform) FSP, I'd avoid.

HOWEVER, It's always good to follow the guidelines in PSU tier list. Even FSP can release a good licensed PSU, though, it's not really a FSP CPU.
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#105
freeagent
LittleBroCorsair AX series are on par with Seasonic Platinum/Titanium series, if not a bit better. Superflower are amazing PSUs, too. While Seasonic themselves design their platform, Corsair licenses platforms.

Anything else, ASsrock, Bequiet, Assuss (some of their PSUs are top not quality - basically rebranded high quality OEM platform) FSP, I'd avoid.

HOWEVER, It's always good to follow the guidelines in PSU tier list. Even FSP can release a good licensed PSU, though, it's not really a FSP CPU.
I know, Corsair struck out like 4 times with me.

Forever junk to me :laugh:
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#106
Krit
LittleBroEven FSP can release a good licensed PSU, though, it's not really a FSP CPU.
What do you mean "even" ? FSP always was a decent brand. For Corsair you will overpay for the name not for the quality at least in EU and i had issues with it.
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#107
LittleBro
KritWhat do you mean "even" ? FSP always was a decent brand. For Corsair you will overpay for the name at least in EU.
Not it wasn't. Even cheaper bronze Seasonic will be more reliable than FSP at same or similar price. I have experience with FSP supplies with failing fans and coil whine (Hexa series).

FSP PSU at 60e (500-600W) failed twice for me during Sandy Bridge amd Ivy Bridge era. FSP was long ago considered reliable choice when their PSUs were labelled as Fortron, but then they somehow transitioned to heavily budget-oriented company.
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#108
Krit
LittleBroNot it wasn't. Even cheaper bronze Seasonic will be more reliable than FSP at same or similar price. I have experience with FSP supplies with failing fans and coil whine (Hexa series).
I had Corsair TX650M it died after few weeks also had weird fan noise issues klicking/ticking, chieftec died after two years. FSP Raider 550w it was fine. When it comes to budget Hydro K PRO 750W yes it has coil whine! I also had some seasonics but with coil whine!
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#109
Aleksandar_038
LittleBroNot it wasn't. Even cheaper bronze Seasonic will be more reliable than FSP at same or similar price. I have experience with FSP supplies with failing fans and coil whine (Hexa series).

FSP PSU at 60e (500-600W) failed twice for me during Sandy Bridge amd Ivy Bridge era. FSP was long ago considered reliable choice when their PSUs were labelled as Fortron, but then they somehow transitioned to heavily budget-oriented company.
FSP is THE BIGGEST power supply producer. They produce everything, from junk to very high-end units. They are never top-notch on performance list, but as far as reliability goes, they are as good as you can get (of course, per price category you are buying).
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#110
Chrispy_
Broken ProcessorWarranty is getting too complicated. If companies want you using their own cables then make them for each brand of power supply or validate power supply manufacturers and work together because I'm not using that shitty cable that converts to 3 8pin12v. it's ridiculous to think that 100% of customers are using same brand power supply or if that's even covered by GPU warranty. This who situation is utter nonsense.
The irony is that PNY's actual warranty terms and conditions have absolutely zero mention of this adapter cable rule that they're using to deny the warranty.

It's one thing to have a stupid clause in your warranty terms, but it's another thing entirely to deny a claim based on a rule you just made up that's not anywhere in the contract of sale, your website, or paperwork included with the product.
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#111
mrpaco
lexluthermiesterThis is bullshit! WTF was that? ASRock is not the problem.


Yeah, they do.

@ PNY
What the hell is wrong with you people? A card you designed and built burned up and you're blaming the PSU maker? This is "Gigabyte" levels of low. Not a good showing, not good at all.
This is not on PNY, the cable manufacturer is the one that should deal with the warranty, specially after seeing roman stats where never the psu or the gpu were the culprit of the melted cards, it was always the cable.

basically psu and cable manufacturers are bundling or selling 1€ 12v cables calling them premium while being the most utter shit possible with terrible tolerances that end burning cards.

like, the've been running away with this for some time until a connector that needs to have a decent cable appeared, and then the drama started. But the Roman stats say it clearly, this is all on the cables and their terrible building quality.

so, if the cable was an asrock one bundled with the PSU, then asrock is the one that should deal with it, not the gpu manufacturer. If the cable was the pny adapter, then pny should cover the warranty, but it was asrock psu one.

unfortunately, this is where we all consumers lose and even if someone should cover our warranty, if you get a burnt 4090 or 5090, as today, no matter how much you complain and how they should cover you, they are not going to do it.

so, just purchase a wireview or at the bare least a corsair thermalprotect cable, it's not ideal but it's the best an owner of this cards can do at this moment.
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#112
OneMoar
There is Always Moar
mrpacoThis is not on PNY, the cable manufacturer is the one that should deal with the warranty, specially after seeing roman stats where never the psu or the gpu were the culprit of the melted cards, it was always the cable.

basically psu and cable manufacturers are bundling or selling 1€ 12v cables calling them premium while being the most utter shit possible with terrible tolerances that end burning cards.

like, the've been running away with this for some time until a connector that needs to have a decent cable appeared, and then the drama started. But the Roman stats say it clearly, this is all on the cables and their terrible building quality.

so, if the cable was an asrock one bundled with the PSU, then asrock is the one that should deal with it, not the gpu manufacturer. If the cable was the pny adapter, then pny should cover the warranty, but it was asrock psu one.

unfortunately, this is where we all consumers lose and even if someone should cover our warranty, if you get a burnt 4090 or 5090, as today, no matter how much you complain and how they should cover you, they are not going to do it.

so, just purchase a wireview or at the bare least a corsair thermalprotect cable, it's not ideal but it's the best an owner of this cards can do at this moment.
respecfully fuck that

the connector is standardized the cables are standardized (at least according to NVidia)

and you are ignoring the piles of burned up cards using official cables across many psus every vendor every card every model of this thing has been proven to be faulty

the 12VHPwr is faulty design verbatim there isn't a good implementation of the design ANYWARE if there was we wouldn't be needing thermocouples on a god dam power connector
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#113
mrpaco
OneMoarrespecfully fuck that

the connector is standardized the cables are standardized (at least according to NVidia)

and you are ignoring the piles of burned up cards using official cables across many psus every vendor every card every model of this thing has been proven to be faulty

the 12VHPwr is faulty design verbatim there isn't a good implementation of the design ANYWARE if there was we wouldn't be needing thermocouples on a god dam power connector
While the 12V connector design may not be the best design, manufacturer data suggests it is not inherently flawed as long as the cable assembly meets adequate standards.

12V architecture is widely deployed in data centers today without the melting issues observed in the consumer space, primarily because enterprise environments mandate higher-grade components and tighter tolerances.

In the consumer sector, however, €1 cables sourced from low-grade manufacturers are frequently rebranded and sold at premium prices. A similar pattern occurred with USB and Thunderbolt cables, the market was flooded with substandard products until people needed to start checking if the cables have been certified by the USB-IF, Intel, displayport or hdmi consortiums before purchasing anything. The issue became pervasive enough that diagnostic hardware manufacturers, such as Treedix and FNIRSI, built multi-million-euro businesses simply helping users verify cable compliance.

The situation with 12V cables is no different. The data indicates that PSU vendors and their sub-par bundled cables bear the primary responsibility. If manufacturers implemented strict quality control and tighter mechanical tolerances, cable prices might rise from €15 to €40, but thermal failures would effectively drop to negligible levels.
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#114
lexluthermiester
mrpacomanufacturer data suggests it is not inherently flawed
That data is wrong. It is a seriously lacking connector.
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#115
mrpaco
lexluthermiesterThat data is wrong. It is a seriously lacking connector.
do you have data to compare?

And any reason of why is not a problem on datacenters?
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#116
lexluthermiester
mrpacodo you have data to compare?
How about the fact they we have melted connectors at all? We're not talking about a random, once in while chance occurrences. This is happening with disturbing regularity and is not isolated. There's your evidence. The connector is not up to the electrical load being required of it on the higher end. The 12VHP connector needs to be abandoned in favor of safer and more appropriate types of connectors.
See the following..
DrUsmanSaleem in Modders Get RTX 5090 Running on 8-Pin Connectors, Ditching NVIDIA's Melting 16-Pin DesignModders at the Brazilian YouTube channel TecLab have an RTX 5090 running on three standard 8-pin PCIe connectors instead of the 16-pin design that keeps melting on high-end NVIDIA cards. The team stri…
mrpacoAnd any reason of why is not a problem on datacenters?
Data centers don't publicly report equipment failure as most of them are bound by confidentiality contract clauses. Data center compute units also don't commonly use consumer GPU's. The units they do use have different and, ironically, more capable power connectors.
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#117
Chrispy_
OneMoarand you are ignoring the piles of burned up cards using official cables across many psus every vendor every card every model of this thing has been proven to be faulty
Exactly.

I'll also say in addition to that that people buying 5090s aren't using bargain-basement power supplies with questionable quality, either....

In this particular case with PNY, the burn victim was using an Asrock PG-1600G which is a ~$280 power supply with a decent Cybenetics rating and the latest generation of ATX 12V-2x6 cable with all of the attempted improvements to fix this flawed connector, as well as yellow plug tips to help prevent partial insertion and even an in-cable temperature sensor. The wire gauge was thick enough (as you'd expect from a high-end PSU) that the cable never got hot enough to trigger the in-cable sensor's thermal cutoff, so what we have here is a pure connector failure. The PSU end looks worse than the GPU end because the PSU's connector is typically tucked out of the case airflow, the GPU end should be right in the main fan airflow.

Blaming the PSU manufacturer, and the ATX 3.1-certified, PCIe 5.0 spec-compliant cable, when it's the Amphenol connectors that melted is wild. Amphenol makes all of the 12V-2x6 connectors, whether it's the PNY adapter cable, an aftermarket 12V-2x6 cable, or the official one from the PSU manufacturer.
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#118
trsttte
mrpacoAnd any reason of why is not a problem on datacenters?
Besides what lexluther mentioned, datacenter racks pull a fuckton of air over the entire chassis which cools everything. Data center gpu's don't even have fans as you might very well know, it's a very different environment. The workloads are also more predictable and constant, you don't get constant heating-cooling cycles, it's always cooking to medium-rare
Chrispy_Amphenol makes all of the 12V-2x6 connectors, whether it's the PNY adapter cable, an aftermarket 12V-2x6 cable, or the official one from the PSU manufacturer.
Pretty sure molex and many others are in on the action now: www.molex.com/en-us/products/part-detail/2191140161
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#119
R-T-B
LittleBroFSP
They are actually a huge OEM, I don't think they license platforms often if much at all.
LittleBroNot it wasn't. Even cheaper bronze Seasonic will be more reliable than FSP at same or similar price. I have experience with FSP supplies with failing fans and coil whine (Hexa series).
The electrical performance of some of the top FSP supplies is off the charts ahead of the gang right now. There just isn't really anything close. Coil whine is highly variable and it's hard to draw any brand conclusions based on it.
Aleksandar_038They are never top-notch on performance list
Actually, the Hydro TI Pro units (the same one in my system, though they discontinued the 850W version so you only have 1000W now) have been.
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#120
LittleBro
KritI had Corsair TX650M it died after few weeks also had weird fan noise issues klicking/ticking, chieftec died after two years. FSP Raider 550w it was fine. When it comes to budget Hydro K PRO 750W yes it has coil whine! I also had some seasonics but with coil whine!
Corsair TX and CX series were budget-oriented and pure shitness.
However, Corsair AX series can compete with Seasonic Platinum/Titanium tier PSUs.
Sure, before, Corsair licenses Seasonic platform for their AX PSUs, then switched to other OEMs.

But I'd put my hand into fire for Seasonic bronze tier PSUs, while I would not do the same for Corsair bronze tier PSUs.
Aleksandar_038FSP is THE BIGGEST power supply producer.
No, it is not. Check your numbers.
By units made, Delta electronics is absolute PSU leader, since it's OEM for Dell/HP/Lenovo.
Then Lite-On, and then maybe FSP group.

As for DYI desktop PSUs, Corsair is the biggest brand, but Corsair licenses various platforms (Seasonic, Channel Well, Great Wall, ...).
Then Cooler Master (Chicony platform), Seasonic (their own platform).
FSP licenses platform for be quiet! and EVGA and even together with their own FSP brand it's still not enough to beat Corsair.
mrpacoWhile the 12V connector design may not be the best design, manufacturer data suggests it is not inherently flawed as long as the cable assembly meets adequate standards.

12V architecture is widely deployed in data centers today without the melting issues observed in the consumer space, primarily because enterprise environments mandate higher-grade components and tighter tolerances.

In the consumer sector, however, €1 cables sourced from low-grade manufacturers are frequently rebranded and sold at premium prices. A similar pattern occurred with USB and Thunderbolt cables, the market was flooded with substandard products until people needed to start checking if the cables have been certified by the USB-IF, Intel, displayport or hdmi consortiums before purchasing anything. The issue became pervasive enough that diagnostic hardware manufacturers, such as Treedix and FNIRSI, built multi-million-euro businesses simply helping users verify cable compliance.

The situation with 12V cables is no different. The data indicates that PSU vendors and their sub-par bundled cables bear the primary responsibility. If manufacturers implemented strict quality control and tighter mechanical tolerances, cable prices might rise from €15 to €40, but thermal failures would effectively drop to negligible levels.
Are you BoggledBeagle's secondary account?
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#121
Aleksandar_038
LittleBroNo, it is not. Check your numbers.
By units made, Delta electronics is absolute PSU leader, since it's OEM for Dell/HP/Lenovo.
Then Lite-On, and then maybe FSP group.

As for DYI desktop PSUs, Corsair is the biggest brand, but Corsair licenses various platforms (Seasonic, Channel Well, Great Wall, ...).
Then Cooler Master (Chicony platform), Seasonic (their own platform).
FSP licenses platform for be quiet! and EVGA and even together with their own FSP brand it's still not enough to beat Corsair.
Maybe I was not clear enough - biggest of all companies present in retail space.

You are mixing grandmothers and frogs a bit there, but I wasn't precise at start, so its on me - Delta and Liteon are out of competiton, because they are massive ODM, yet you can not buy them at all, not even through some brand. Delta have 80 000 employees, more than all other producers combined.

Those two aside, FSP and CWT are biggest ODM present in PC space, plus FSP sells a lot through its own brand (maybe even majority).

Most estimates give FSP more than 5 million units sold, more than all retail brands (Corsair, CM, TT, even SeaSonic - although they are making their own units ans do retail too, just like FSP) combined. CWT is in same ballpark.

Everybody else are far bellow - maybe Corsair and CM reach half of that... Maybe.

They are not same league.

However, focus is different. Seasonic produces less, but even their cheap units are excellent. FSP have everything, from barely good to top notch.
LittleBroAre you BoggledBeagle's secondary account?
Definitely looks like that 😁
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#122
Chomiq
OneMoarand this is why you don't volunteer information to a vendor when getting a RMA
You'd still have to provide the original octopus that came with the card and if that didn't show a sign of melting or use they'd probably ask "Ok, so which cable have you used to power the GPU?".

I do agree that nowhere does their warranty specify that only their power adapter or an "approved" cable can be used with the GPU.

With my 3080 Ti FE you had this included with the card:

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#123
Aleksandar_038
ChomiqYou'd still have to provide the original octopus that came with the card and if that didn't show a sign of melting or use they'd probably ask "Ok, so which cable have you used to power the GPU?".
Connection is officially standardized, cable is officialy standardized.

Unless PNY dont claim that their cards need special cable / connector, they have no business asking anything regarding cable.

It ia very simple.

And if connector is junk, although standardized, they can complain to PCI-SIG, and not screw customers.

They are just avoiding their obligations in order to earn more by selling 5090 at current prices ans nothing more.
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#124
Chomiq
Aleksandar_038Connection is officially standardized, cable is officialy standardized.

Unless PNY dont claim that their cards need special cable / connector, they have no business asking anything regarding cable.

It ia very simple.

And if connector is junk, although standardized, they can complain to PCI-SIG, and not screw customers.

They are just avoiding their obligations in order to earn more by selling 5090 at current prices ans nothing more.
See updated post.
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#125
Aleksandar_038
ChomiqSee updated post.
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Nothing there that wouls change what I said.
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