Tuesday, May 26th 2020

Distant Blips on the AMD Roadmap Surface: Rembrandt and Raphael

Several future AMD processor codenames across various computing segments surfaced courtesy of an Expreview leak that's largely aligned with information from Komachi Ensaka. It does not account for "Matisse Refresh" that's allegedly coming out in June-July as three gaming-focused Ryzen socket AM4 desktop processors; but roadmap from 2H-2020 going up to 2022 sees many codenames surface. To begin with, the second half of 2020 promises to be as action packed as last year's 7/7 mega launch. Over in the graphics business, the company is expected to debut its DirectX 12 Ultimate-compliant RDNA2 client graphics, and its first CDNA architecture-based compute accelerators. Much of the processor launch cycle is based around the new "Zen 3" microarchitecture.

The server platform debuting in the second half of 2020 is codenamed "Genesis SP3." This will be the final processor architecture for the SP3-class enterprise sockets, as it has DDR4 and PCI-Express gen 4.0 I/O. The EPYC server processor is codenamed "Milan," and combines "Zen 3" chiplets along with an sIOD. EPYC Embedded (FP6 package) processors are codenamed "Grey Hawk."
The 4th generation Ryzen Threadripper HEDT processor family, which uses "Zen 3" chiplets, will be based on a package codenamed "Genesis Peak," and we predict it could retain compatibility with sTRX4 motherboards. AMD's main breadwinner for "Zen 3" is expected to be "Vermeer," which makes up the bulk of the 4th generation Ryzen desktop processor family in the AM4 package. These processors are compatible with socket AM4 motherboards based on AMD 400- and 500-series chipsets.

The "Zen 2" based "Renoir" silicon will power APUs slotted in the Ryzen 4000 product family, such as the Ryzen 7 4700G. AMD will also introduce an entry-level Athlon processor based on highly stripped down silicon codenamed "Dali." We're not sure what the underlying microarchitecture is. With the Athlon 3000G, for example, AMD tapped into the original "Zen" (Zen 1) microarchitecture.

2021 promises to be an equally big year for AMD, as it refreshes not just its EPYC server processor lineup, but also the underlying platform, with the introduction of the new SP5-series enterprise socket that has DDR5 memory interface. This platform is codenamed "Floyd," and the enterprise processor is codenamed "Genoa." The 4th generation EPYC "Genoa" processor introduces new 5 nm "Zen 4" CPU chiplets, and a brand new sIOD that supports DDR5 memory interface.

It is likely that AMD will introduce a new desktop socket, AM5. This will be necessitated with the DDR5 memory standard gaining market traction in 2021. The codename of the mainstream desktop processor, which immediately succeeds "Vermeer," is still unknown. We do know the name of the "Renoir" successor, "Cezanne," which will make its debut as a mobile FP6 part, but will end being the last major product launch on the AM4 socket, as a "Zen 3" based socket AM4 APU. So entry-thru-mainstream AM4-based options will be available just as AM5 takes up the performance-thru-enthusiast segments.

2022 is as far as the eye can see on AMD's near-term future, seeing the debut of the "Zen 5" microarchitecture that's already under development. Unless it's built on a refinement of a 5 nm-class process, it could debut 3 nm, as TSMC is expected to debut this process by late-2022. We don't know what codenames the SP5-based enterprise platform or the enterprise processor goes by, but we're hearing two new names. "Raphael" is the 2022 successor to the chip that succeeds "Vermeer" on the socket AM5 desktop platform and "Rembrandt" is likely to be the first socket AM5 APU, which will make its debut as a mobile processor before growing some pins.
Sources: Expreview, Komachi Ensaka, via VideoCardz
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38 Comments on Distant Blips on the AMD Roadmap Surface: Rembrandt and Raphael

#28
watzupken
ARFLink with benchmarks ?

3 times but in a virtual reality.

How many Intel laptops sold actually runs the top end UHD 11? Unfortunately, I feel most are still using UHD 9 or 9.5 whatever they call it. Even in the chart, the supposed "bad" Vega graphics is still beating Intel's best very comfortably in 5 out of 7 games on this chart, even if I write DOTA 2 as a tie. Plus, I have a octa core processor with AMD vs a quad core Intel chip. AMD for me anytime man.
ARFIntel Tiger Lake With Xe Graphics Outperforms AMD’s Fastest 7nm Vega Integrated GPU
wccftech.com/intel-tiger-lake-with-xe-graphics-outperforms-amds-fastest-7nm-vega-integrated-gpu/
Likewise, I am happy to see Intel getting more competitive in GPU space. I think the GPU space is in dire need for a competitor with deep pocket.

As for Tiger Lake, I will take whatever rumors with a bunch of salt till I see the actual gaming performance. A lot of rumors of benchmarks that are highly optimized, and not reflective of actual game play performance.
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#29
ARF
watzupkenHow many Intel laptops sold actually runs the top end UHD 11? Unfortunately, I feel most are still using UHD 9 or 9.5 whatever they call it. Even in the chart, the supposed "bad" Vega graphics is still beating Intel's best very comfortably in 5 out of 7 games on this chart, even if I write DOTA 2 as a tie. Plus, I have a octa core processor with AMD vs a quad core Intel chip. AMD for me anytime man.



Likewise, I am happy to see Intel getting more competitive in GPU space. I think the GPU space is in dire need for a competitor with deep pocket.

As for Tiger Lake, I will take whatever rumors with a bunch of salt till I see the actual gaming performance. A lot of rumors of benchmarks that are highly optimized, and not reflective of actual game play performance.
AMD for you is ok. I am not against that. I am against gaming at low settings and waving the slides as if AMD achieved something super.
It's ugly. I am calling them to make proper integrated graphics.

Running CS Source or GO at lowest settings with 60 FPS is not ok..
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#30
cucker tarlson
ARFI am against gaming at low settings
then don't buy an apu
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#31
ARF
cucker tarlsonthen don't buy an apu
There is no other option for the consumers for notebooks in a checked budget.

It would be nice to run at least some games with the integrated graphics but unfortunately the games must always switch to the discrete.
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#32
cucker tarlson
ARFThere is no other option for the consumers for notebooks in a checked budget.
what are you talking about nvidia's laptop cards run about everything and they come in every segment from 1650 to 2080
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#33
ARF
cucker tarlsonwhat are you talking about nvidia's laptop cards run about everything and they come in every segment from 1650 to 2080
This is true and I was about to say it - AMD intends to abandon the graphics market altogether.

Their graphics products proposals are not serious.

I said it - they have very low market share with a trend to only worsen.
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#34
cucker tarlson
:rolleyes:

please stop listening to stupid youtube channels

amd aren't going anywhere
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#35
kapone32
ARFThis is true and I was about to say it - AMD intends to abandon the graphics market altogether.

Their graphics products proposals are not serious.

I said it - they have very low market share with a trend to only worsen.
That is a very dangerous statement.
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#36
SL2
cucker tarlsonplease stop listening to stupid youtube channels
As if that's going to happen.

Some people are more into confirmation bias than others.
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#37
cucker tarlson
MatsAs if that's going to happen.

Some people are more into confirmation bias than others.
then it's entirely on themselves that they feel disappointed all the time.
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