One bot goes, another one jumps in right away.

Visible NoiseSource = ChatGPT.com. Not even the sense to clean up your AI slop.

Be less lazy, and read more. Maybe you will learn something, you never know.

ChatGPT can be just search engine in this case, and behind there may be official article created by real engineers, not bunch of vibe-engineers that vibe-designed this slop connector.

Since you are so lazy, here article is attached.

People learned 50 years ago that connectors, when exposed to thermal effects, can develop issues, only green knights in shinning armor still do not beleive in it.

Your buddy wanted to discuss, but did not know that fretting exists. If you also want to discuss, and do not understand what happens in metal connector on high temperatures, please follow his steps.

Visible NoiseIt’s always the same four clowns, too.

So, everyone disagreeng with every time same few green knights in shinning armor is clown?

JustBenchingAt this point believing that there is a hidden conspiracy and cards are melting left and right is, well, not based on reality.

Well, in your reality there is 50 million cards to be potentialy endangered, so... yes, we definitely are not on same reality.

rusty caterpillarFor 12VHPWR we have operating temps 85 C and 13.5 A/pin while for 12V 2x6 we have OT 105 C but only 9.5 A/pin





How come the operating temps changed from 85 to 105 C in between the 2???
Because 12VHPWR was melting too fast? They changed the moulding plastic quality?
Why is 12V 2x6 only 9.5A/pin compared to the previous 13.5A .
Because 13.5 A was not realistic?

Oh, my God, what kind of forsaken reality this is? What kind of reality it is, when you allow numbers to cloud your vision? Be open-minded, believe, embrace green god and it will be much easier for you.

I have 12 tabs open from reddit threads regarding the 3090 melting their 8pin connectors. Pics attached and the whole 9 yard. I can find a couple dozen more. That's while stricly looking for 3090s and ignoring all other cards it has happened to. But hey, let's ignore them and all available data and scream about the 12vhp. Makes sense

Looks to me like 12vh is much safer. At least it doesn't burn 150w cards like the 8pin used to. Oh yeah, found some 1060s and rx580s with blown and melted connectors too.

JustBenchingI have 12 tabs open from reddit threads regarding the 3090 melting their 8pin connectors. Pics attached and the whole 9 yard. I can find a couple dozen more. That's while stricly looking for 3090s and ignoring all other cards it has happened to. But hey, let's ignore them and all available data and scream about the 12vhp. Makes sense

Oh, but wait, there are 300 hundred millions of graphic cards with 8pin, and few burned, so failure rate is like below 0,0000001%. No need to worry.

Lets use 8pin forewer... No-one said ever 😁

Aleksandar_038Oh, but wait, there are 300 hundred millions of graphic cards with 8pin, and few burned, so failure rate is like below 0,0000001%. No need to worry.

Lets use 8pin forewer... No-one said ever 😁

Exactly, nobody should worry about their 8pin melting even though there are a lot of cases. You get it! GOOD, that's progress.

JustBenchingExactly, nobody should worry about their 8pin melting even though there are a lot of cases. You get it! GOOD, that's progress.

So, nobody should worry about 12HPWR melting neither? Although melting is here several orders of magnitude more frequent?

Well, I guess then all is solved - no one should worry about anything. Just enjoy the smell of burned plastic. All RTX5090 will anyway die out in 2 - 3 years and problem will be solved.

I mean, your logic here is undisputable - if people dies from plague in 1327, then why it is issue to die from plague today?

And why should we expect same safety level from new things like we used to expect from old ones? Who cares about that, let's live on the edge.

Guys, you are not clowns, you are whole circus. And current show is quite sad.

JustBenchingReally? There are way more Ryzen chips blowing up and killing their mobos - at least if you go by reddit.

I disagree.

JustBenchingReally? There are way more Ryzen chips blowing up and killing their mobos - at least if you go by reddit.

I just used AI to scour through reddit and find all the reports. Reports of 12vhp cable since 2022 - a little bit below 100

Reports of the 9800x 3d (specifically and exclusively, lol) blowing up and / or killing it's motherboard, more than 150.

Then I took a look at official figures. Cablemod had an angled adapter that was fully problematic and they had to recall it. The failure rates on this specific adapter which was highly problematic was 1,07% according to their own numbers. Let me repeat that, the failure rate on a PROBLEMATIC adapter was 1,07%, and that percentage was so high according to cablemod that they had to issue a recall for that product. Which means that the failure rate on 12vh as a whole has to be much lower than 1,07%.

Cable mod adapter wouldn't exist if the root cause of a bad design wasn't present. In order to sell a paracetamol(adapter) to kill a symptom without eliminating the cause, of course, an underlying problem has to be present. Cablemod didn't succeed but, aggravated the situation, nothing new, it happens so often when you tackle the surface of the problem not the root cause. Yes, only NVD and Amphenol can tackle the root cause. NVD has to to solve the PCB design as well not only the connector, as PCB is a co-factor.

A red flag should have trigger the alarm when Cablemod, BeQuiet, Seasonic, Corsair came with the no bent cable rule. Some ppl believe NVD communicated that to manufacturers.

Seasonic - 35 mm - PSUs user manuals
BeQuiet - 40mm + "do not bend horizontally"
CableMod - 35 mm
Corsair - 30mm

Besides, many PC cases doesn't permit that anyway, even expensive ones(Lian Li, NZTX etc) side panels are too close, even newer ones like Lian Li 207. Good luck in not bending the cable( oh! but you can buy risers kits from them 100+/kit) another paracetamol. Is strange how the puzzle takes contour.

One of the latest cases from Phanteks




Such "guideline/rule" is unprecedented for a power cable targeting end users.

Would you tell your wife/girlfriend to not bend the pwr cable of her hair dryer pulling 2000W of the wall? Is not a challenge, just don't do it.

JustBenchingNorthridge fix - whos video you posted, has less than 100 cases. 100 out of millions of cards.

You have to bare in mind that Alex, the employee at Northbridge fix, kind off, change his statement from the video 3 years ago, talking about "recall", with "we can't blame the user". So he tone down, is just an employee. His statements, as much his boss wants too. That boss from Northbridge fix I let you decide what man is, as Tony from Northwest repair talked about him and fix GPUs "padded and closed" by him. Tony worked for him but, he left with no regrets.

JustBenchingSo I started digging even further. According to Gamersnexus own poll, the failure rate difference between 12vh and the regular 8pin was 0,7% (3,3 vs 4).

GN poll. "Can't see the forest for the trees"? 8 pin plugs served users GPUs for 19 years while 12V only 5 years, can you see the huge discrepancies here?

Even the poll is correct still looks very bad for the 12V. Bravo.

JustBenchingInno3d, which is the 2nd largest GPU provider (part of the PC partner group which involves Zotac manli etc) publicly said that they had less than 15 cases of melted connectors across EU, and that user damaged cards (liquid metal blowing up the core and other similar stuff) was way more common in their RMAs.

Yes, another untested crap released to the public. But they could have fixed that with proper materials for the gaskets that won't crack, not even fissure under prolonged heat and exposure to LM.
Another case of planned obsolescence or we should assume they went cheap for gaskets and that is all there is?:laugh:

Not a question if but when and where you want the balls, under the core, VRAM. It won't blow! just die, no fireworks, sorry. They quickly adopted that LM crap in laptops and GPUs : Asus , Gigglebit, MSI, Lenovo etc.

JustBenchingAt this point believing that there is a hidden conspiracy and cards are melting left and right is, well, not based on reality.

Hidden - no , is in plain sight
Theory - no, they practically melt and are hot to touch, some of them bubbles up
Conspiracy - no, 4 % /5 years, 3.3% in 19 years --- your own data:slap:

rusty caterpillar...
A red flag should have trigger the alarm when Cablemod, BeQuiet, Seasonic, Corsair came with the no bent cable rule. Some ppl believe NVD communicated the

Seasonic - 35 mm - PSUs user manuals
BeQuiet - 40mm + "do not bend horizontally"
CableMod - 35 mm
Corsair - 30mm

Such "guideline/rule" is unprecedented for a power cable targeting end users.

Would you tell your wife/girlfriend to not bend the pwr cable of her hair dryer pulling 2000W of the wall? Is not a challenge, just don't do it.

The name of what you call "red flag" is a strain relief and it is a common practice for installing cables.

The cable is not for end users. The cable is for computer builders. If end users are allowed to buy components for building PCs, they should follow normal PC building gudelines - that includes properly mounting internal cables with a necessary strain relief for plugs.

Can you rationally explain, why are you mixing internal cables in a computer with external cables for movable household appliances?

I think you should try to employ the part of your brain used to search and add stupid illustration pictures with rational thinking, self restraint and self correction, before you post something. Because the amount of nonsense in your posts is truly astonishing.

BoggledBeagleThe name of what you call "red flag" is strain relief and is is a common practice for installing cables.

You do not know what fretting is, but you know what is strain relief? I am impressed by your knowledge.

So, you kinda left this discussion in style. Why coming back? Your shift started, other guy had to go to real work, or what?

BoggledBeagleThe cable is not for end users. The cable is for computer builders. If end users are allowed to buy components for building PCs, they should follow normal PC building gudelines.

Normal guideline is avoiding bending cable for 35 mm? Can you find another example in PC builidng guidelines of such brilliant practice?

Aleksandar_038Normal guideline is avoiding bending cable for 35 mm? Can you find another example in PC builidng guidelines of such brilliant practice?

Those rules formulated by PSU manufacturers are there in an attempt to provide the strain relief to plugs.

I though it is so easy to understand, that I did not explicitly put it in one sentence.

BoggledBeagleThose rules formulated by PSU manufacturers are there in an attempt to provide the strain relief to plugs.

I though it is so easy to understand, that I did not explicitly put it in one sentence.

But why would plug need strain relief? Is there any other plug in PC arena that need such special conditions and "strain relief"?

Question is rhetorical, you do not have to bother answering on it.

You and your colleague with Sapphire 9070 sample actually did far more to prove that connector is junk than any of us.

Aleksandar_038So, nobody should worry about 12HPWR melting neither? Although melting is here several orders of magnitude more frequent?

That is what we are trying to figure out. The frequency. Do you have any data? Cause all the data I have seen (cablemod, gamersnexus, Pugetbench, reddit) suggests that it isn't any more of a problem than 8 pins were. Or CPU failures. So...stage is yours. Share your data that shows otherwise.

rusty caterpillarI disagree.

Cable mod adapter wouldn't exist if the root cause of a bad design wasn't present. In order to sell a paracetamol(adapter) to kill a symptom without eliminating the cause, of course, an underlying problem has to be present. Cablemod didn't succeed but, aggravated the situation, nothing new, it happens so often when you tackle the surface of the problem not the root cause. Yes, only NVD and Amphenol can tackle the root cause. NVD has to to solve the PCB design as well not only the connector, as PCN is a co-factor.

A red flag should have trigger the alarm when Cablemod, BeQuiet, Seasonic, Corsair came with the no bent cable rule. Some ppl believe NVD communicated the

Seasonic - 35 mm - PSUs user manuals
BeQuiet - 40mm + "do not bend horizontally"
CableMod - 35 mm
Corsair - 30mm

Besides, many PC cases doesn't permit that anyway, even expensive ones(Lian Li, NZTX etc) side panels are too close, even newer ones like Lian Li 207. Good luck in not bending the cable( oh! but you can buy risers kits from them 100+/kit) another paracetamol. Is strange how the puzzle takes contour.

One of the latest cases from Phanteks




Such "guideline/rule" is unprecedented for a power cable targeting end users.

Would you tell your wife/girlfriend to not bend the pwr cable of her hair dryer pulling 2000W of the wall? Is not a challenge, just don't do it.





You have to bare in mind that Alex, the employee at Northbridge fix, kind off, change his statement from the video 3 years ago, talking about "recall", with "we can't blame the user". So he tone down, is just an employee. His statements, as much his boss wants too. That boss from Northbridge fix I let you decide what man is, as Tony from Northwest repair talked about him and fix GPUs "padded and closed" by him. Tony worked for him but, he left with no regrets.



GN poll. "Can't see the forest for the trees"? 8 pin plugs served users GPUs for 19 years while 12V only 5 years, can you see the huge discrepancies here?

Even the poll is correct still looks very bad for the 12V. Bravo.




Yes, another untested crap released to the public. But they could have fixed that with proper materials for the gaskets that won't crack, not even fissure under prolonged heat and exposure to LM.
Another case of planned obsolesces, or we should assume they went cheap for gaskets and that is all there is?:laugh:

Not a question if but when and where you want the balls, under the core, VRAM. It won't blow! just die, no fireworks, sorry. They quickly adopted that LM crap laptops and GPUs : Asus , Gigglebit, MSI, Lenovo etc.


Hidden - no , is in plain sight
Theory - no, they practically melt and are hot to touch, some of them bubbles up
Conspiracy - no, 4 % /5 years, 3.3% in 19 years --- your own data:slap:

Man, do you understand what a failure rate is? Why would it increase as the years go by? That makes no sense. 5 years is enough for all the cables of RTX 40 to have melted by now and the failure rates to have skyrocketed. Yet inno3d told us they have a total of 15 cards with melted connectors across the whole EU.

Aleksandar_038But why would plug need strain relief? Is there any other plug in PC arena that need such special conditions and "strain relief"?

Every plug needs strain relief. Every internal cable in any finished product connecting components is fastened so that the cable stays in one position while providing strain relief to plugs or other connection types.

It is the most basic rule of building electrical and electronic equipment. The fact you do not know this principle is VERY hard to explain.

JustBenchingThat is what we are trying to figure out. The frequency. Do you have any data? Cause all the data I have seen (cablemod, gamersnexus, Pugetbench, reddit) suggests that it isn't any more of a problem than 8 pins were. Or CPU failures. So...stage is yours. Share your data that shows otherwise.

Data I have from PC reatiler in my city are: out of 6 RTX 5090 solds in 2026, 2 had meltdowns already. Third will have probably soon, because cable is very hot on touch, so now 5090 is power limited to 400W until WireGuard arrive... (which many 5090 users practive now out of fear - do they get counted in your statistics)?

Of course, you kinda shared all data we need yourself when you started discussing 50 million cards instead of few hundred thousand, but don't allow reality to cloud your imaginary world.

So, we have all data we need to conlcude connetor and electrical design are junk, we clearly understand why issue is happening. What we do not understand is how you and your side-kicks don't feel stupid trying to defending something that is indefensible ?

Also rhetoric question, don't bother answering...

BoggledBeagleEvery plug needs strain relief. Every internal cable in any finished product connecting components is fastened so that the cable stays in one position while providing strain relief to plugs or other connection types.

It is the most basic rule of building electrical and electronic equipment. The fact you do not know this principle is VERY hard to explain.

I asked for ONE example... Waiting...

BoggledBeagleThose rules formulated by PSU manufacturers are there in an attempt to provide the strain relief to plugs.

I though it is so easy to understand, that I did not explicitly put it in one sentence.

The last 3 pages it's been one side trying to post data and figure out what we can about failure rates from the available data and the other side - as per the usual - resorting to personal attacks again and again. 5 year olds putting their fingers in the ears going nananana 12vhp bad. Dear god, this is a tech forum, lol :D

JustBenchingThe last 3 pages it's been one side trying to post data and figure out what we can about failure rates from the available data and the other side - as per the usual - resorting to personal attacks again and again. 5 year olds putting their fingers in the ears going nananana 12vhp bad. Dear god, this is a tech forum, lol :D

Dude, calling you guys circus is not personal attack. Circus is nice place, happy and entertaining...
You did tell us we are clowns, so yuu kinda started first... I was just thinking - if you are kind to us, it is basic decency that we are kind to you.

Still, there is 50 millions of reasons why one should not be kind with somebody playing coy... but never mind, we are all decent people. We understand.

rusty caterpillarA red flag should have trigger the alarm when Cablemod, BeQuiet, Seasonic, Corsair came with the no bent cable rule. Some ppl believe NVD communicated the

Seasonic - 35 mm - PSUs user manuals
BeQuiet - 40mm + "do not bend horizontally"
CableMod - 35 mm
Corsair - 30mm

Besides, many PC cases doesn't permit that anyway, even expensive ones(Lian Li, NZTX etc) side panels are too close, even newer ones like Lian Li 207. Good luck in not bending the cable( oh! but you can buy risers kits from them 100+/kit) another paracetamol. Is strange how the puzzle takes contour.

As a user that has always built my own PC I generally aware of strain relief however I don't recall a manufacturer ever having to point out the standard for cable strain relief specifically for end users until 12VHPWR melting started hitting the internet. Immediately I suspected those press releases were about covering their butt's. The 12VHPWR connector just isn't a good fit for high wattage end-user PC applications. (pun intended) If CableMod a vendor in the specific industry in providing end-user power cables had to recall their own product you know something is wrong. As a consumer that is how I see it.

In other words while the reports of power cable failure may or may not, be exaggerated, there seems to be something to be concerned about. The risk is not zero.

rusty caterpillarSuch "guideline/rule" is unprecedented for a power cable targeting end users.

I agree here. While you can't totally eliminate user error the idea a user can still do everything right and end up with the same problem means the solution was wrong, or at least not good enough. Compounding that power connector placement and cases also make it difficult to adhere to the "after-the-fact" guidelines. The user should never have to worry about PC fire hazard during normal operation.

rusty caterpillarWould you tell your wife/girlfriend to not bend the pwr cable of her hair dryer pulling 2000W of the wall? Is not a challenge, just don't do it.

Well....that's a tough call. At 2000W I might be inclined to issue a family PSA.

A Computer GuyAs a user that has always built my own PC I generally aware of strain relief however I don't recall a manufacturer ever having to point out the standard for cable strain relief specifically for end users until 12VHPWR melting started hitting the internet. Immediately I suspected those press releases were about covering their butt's. The 12VHPWR connector just isn't a good fit for high wattage end-user PC applications. (pun intended) If CableMod a vendor in the specific industry in providing end-user power cables had to recall their own product you know something is wrong. As a consumer that is how I see it.

In other words while the reports of power cable failure may or may not, be exaggerated, there seems to be something to be concerned about. The risk is not zero.


I agree here. While you can't totally eliminate user error the idea a user can still do everything right and end up with the same problem means the solution was wrong, or at least not good enough. Compounding that power connector placement and cases also make it difficult to adhere to the "after-the-fact" guidelines. The user should never have to worry about PC fire hazard during normal operation.


Well....that's a tough call. At 2000W I might be inclined to issue a family PSA.

Cablemod recalled a specific 12vhp adapter, not all of them and not their cables. Which again, further proves the point that failure rate is stupidly low, cause the product they recalled as being of a "high failure rate" had a failure rate of 1,07%. Im currently still using a cablemod cable, for the past 4 years, just tested it with wireview pro, it's in exceptional condition.

The only difference between 12vh failing and 8pins failing is that the former is making news in techsites, the latter didn't. That's it. They are all based on reddit posts, but people think the former is more important cause they made it into a news article.

JustBenchingCablemod recalled a specific 12vhp adapter, not all of them and not their cables. Which again, further proves the point that failure rate is stupidly low, cause the product they recalled as being of a "high failure rate" had a failure rate of 1,07%. Im currently still using a cablemod cable, for the past 4 years, just tested it with wireview pro, it's in exceptional condition.

The only difference between 12vh failing and 8pins failing is that the former is making news in techsites, the latter didn't. That's it. They are all based on reddit posts, but people think the former is more important cause they made it into a news article.

If the 8pins weren't drawing 600W then that is a big difference. My perhaps limited understanding is cards requiring high wattage had multiple 8pin connectors in conjunction with circuits that divided up that power so it wasn't simply one multi-wire/multi-pin single connection trying to deliver the entire wattage. (for example as described in the buildzoid video)

I'm not an EE but it seems to me after reading ad nauseam arguments back and forth (not just in this thread) that simple multi-wire/multi-pin redundancy simply doesn't provide enough of a safety margin for consumers for high wattage GPU applications. Consumers shouldn't feel they have to buy a wireview pro II to protect their purchase from self immolation.

I'm willing to concede reports of the high power adaptor melting could be way overblown, however after learning more about how GPU power delivery has changed in the context of the controversy I would personally be worried about running a high power GPU so much that I would just go with the Asus bus powered solution and skip all the wiring issues complely.

A Computer GuyIf the 8pins weren't drawing 600W then that is a big difference. My perhaps limited understanding is cards requiring high wattage had multiple 8pin connectors in conjunction with circuits that divided up that power so it wasn't simply one multi-wire/multi-pin single connection trying to deliver the entire wattage. (for example as described in the buildzoid video)

I'm not an EE but it seems to me after reading ad nauseam arguments back and forth (not just in this thread) that simple multi-wire/multi-pin redundancy simply doesn't provide enough of a safety margin for consumers for high wattage GPU applications. Consumers shouldn't feel they have to buy a wireview pro II to protect their purchase from self immolation.

I'm willing to concede reports of the high power adaptor melting could be way overblown, however after learning more about how GPU power delivery has changed in the context of the controversy I would personally be worried about running a high power GPU so much that I would just go with the Asus bus powered solution and skip all the wiring issues complely.

I'm not blaming you for being worried, I was too which is why I got the wireview. After I got it I figured there was nothing to worry about and it was a waste of money. But the point is, if you read all of the reports of 8 pin melting (there have been hundreds on reddit and facebook pc places btw) - wouldn't you also be worried? I literally checked reddit for 5 minutes, isolating only 3090 cable melts,I found 12 cases on the spot. If I extend my search I could find hundreds, even on low powered gpus (< 300w). Which is something that has never happened with the 12vh btw.

JustBenchingI'm not blaming you for being worried, I was too which is why I got the wireview. After I got it I figured there was nothing to worry about and it was a waste of money. But the point is, if you read all of the reports of 8 pin melting (there have been hundreds on reddit and facebook pc places btw) - wouldn't you also be worried? I literally checked reddit for 5 minutes, isolating only 3090 cable melts,I found 12 cases on the spot. If I extend my search I could find hundreds, even on low powered gpus (< 300w). Which is something that has never happened with the 12vh btw.

I don't use or consider reddit as a source of reliable data for anything.

A Computer GuyI don't use or consider reddit as a source of reliable data for anything.

But that is the source of all the 12vhp reports. It's all reddit.

JustBenchingBut that is the source of all the 12vhp reports. It's all reddit.

Source of controversy/sensationalism perhaps, not analysis of the problem for which there are multiple sources these days.

JustBenchingCablemod recalled a specific 12vhp adapter, not all of them and not their cables. Which again, further proves the point that failure rate is stupidly low, cause the product they recalled as being of a "high failure rate" had a failure rate of 1,07%. Im currently still using a cablemod cable, for the past 4 years, just tested it with wireview pro, it's in exceptional condition.

The only difference between 12vh failing and 8pins failing is that the former is making news in techsites, the latter didn't. That's it. They are all based on reddit posts, but people think the former is more important cause they made it into a news article.

yes the 90 angled adapter, no it doesn't prove a failure rate, just the fact that 12VHP had an issue which CM try to fix and they didn't succeed. Again they tackled the surface not the root cause.
Is just 1 page back I explain the same thing but you beating around the bush like a drunken pirate for the glass eye.

JustBenchingBut that is the source of all the 12vhp reports. It's all reddit.

Plenty of videos GPU repairs, take your time, you'll learn a thing or two, maybe just maybe you'll learn the root cause of failures in 5000 series. Not holding my breath though.

rusty caterpillaryes the 90 angled adapter, no it doesn't prove a failure rate, just the fact that 12VHP had an issue which CM try to fix and they didn't succeed. Again they tackled the surface not the root cause.
Is just 1 page back I explain the same thing but you beating around the bush like a drunken pirate for the glass eye.


Plenty of videos GPU repairs, take your time, you'll learn a thing or two, maybe just maybe you'll learn the root cause of failures in 5000 series. Not holding my breath though.

No video, explanation, review or technical data can convince these guys.

Not even official TDS that clearly show how connector is unfit for its purpose are argument.

It is all la-la land in their world.

BoggledBeagleThe name of what you call "red flag" is a strain relief and it is a common practice for installing cables.

You need a strain relief, I don't know what substances you are on, are not the Budweiser's kegs, expired or something?

BoggledBeagleThe cable is not for end users. The cable is for computer builders. If end users are allowed to buy components for building PCs, they should follow normal PC building gudelines - that includes properly mounting internal cables with a necessary strain relief for plugs.

Wrong and wrong again, you mention this in another thread.

They wouldn't sell to anybody GPUs in the boxes with manuals to download and read or PSUs if those wasn't intended for end users to install.

Repair shop guys argue that the 12VHP should have 2 clips on the side to properly secure it, guess what they never said that about 8 pin one. Why????:kookoo:

BoggledBeagleCan you rationally explain, why are you mixing internal cables in a computer with external cables for movable household appliances?

Yes. If I compare it with 8 pin connector wasn't good enough:nutkick:Next will be the 4 slice toaster 2500 W and the electrical wires from a Hybrid car.


Users didn't install the 8 pin plugs with any strain relief in mind yet it didn't melt.
They also bought cheap pigtails from ebay 2$ /piece, still didn't melt. Miracles.

BoggledBeagleI think you should try to employ the part of your brain used to search and add stupid illustration pictures with rational thinking, self restraint and self correction, before you post something. Because the amount of nonsense in your posts is truly astonishing.

I think you should do what you said you'll do



Besides ... sticking around too much might show others, which didn't have the "pleasure" yet, to see your true colors.... of a Clown